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BMack   

Very nice post indeed, well written! Some of these fakes are pretty darn good, I had to tell a friend on Facebook that his Cohibas were fake...the bands looked real from the thumbnail but upon looking at them they were not embossed and the "Havana, Cuba" font was off. I hate seeing people get taken advantage of.

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Very well done, Trevor.

This is definitely something that should perhaps be eventually moved to the "Classic Posts" area. Even better yet, maybe a "Newbie Tutorial" sub-forum area, with this being one of the stickies in that area, would be a more relevant idea.

Either way, this is definitely something that's a huge benefit to both newbies to Cuban cigars, as well as cigar forums. A lot of in depth info there that should help to answer a lot of questions.

Kudos to you for having the patience to put it all together so concisely. Well done.

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You mention a destructive test by cutting off a couple of centimeters of the foot to check for short filler. I'm a rookie's rookie. Will the short filler be that obvious to me on such a short piece?

Great info,

Matt

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It should be a reasonable indicator (2cm = almost an inch). Short filler is chopped tobacco...not small leaf. If it looks wrong, then you have justification for opening the rest of the cigar.

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riazp   

Fantastic work as usual Trevor. Your knowledge on cuban cigars is astounding, and this is priceless information for people starting out in the world of cuban cigars. Cheers mate. Brilliant work

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Excellent contribution, thanks.

One of my friends gave me a fake Cohiba Piramides yesterday just for the fun of it, reckons its Cuban tobacco and smokes just fine.

Incorrect band, incorrect ring gauge, came in a box of 25 (never released in that size), box was unstamped and unsealed.

...bought on the street for $50.00 in Cuba.

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Has anyone had any boxes with the DOP corner sticker that doesn't overlap the edges of the box? I have a box of Bolivar Belicosos Finos like that. The cigars look great just worried about the packaging.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

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McSquirelly, on 17 Jun 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:McSquirelly, on 17 Jun 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Just watch this guy thoroughly investigate fake cigars bought online.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDrJoeShow/playlists?sort=dd&shelf_id=4&view=50

pooped.gif I'm exhausted after that!

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tjohn7   

Just saw this for this first time, some how. Very thorough, good article.

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kk405   
On 2/8/2013 at 5:33 PM, Trevor2118 said:

Cigars that may be genuine but mistaken as fakes are: special factory productions, factory trials, pre-production cigars, etc.

Is it also true that Cuban cigars are made in various qualities (with varying prices) for different regions of the world? for example certain European countries getting the highest quality cigars, etc.? or is that a myth/misunderstanding/made-up stuff?

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garbandz   

myth propagated by unscrupulous vendors.

You have seen how hard Rob has to hunt for superior stock.

Based on my purchases from other vendors, really good boxes are rare .

Rob will send marginal stock back, bless him..............:buddies:

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Lotusguy   
Is it also true that Cuban cigars are made in various qualities (with varying prices) for different regions of the world? for example certain European countries getting the highest quality cigars, etc.? or is that a myth/misunderstanding/made-up stuff?


There is an "English market selection" sticker on boxes imported into UK and it is portrayed as higher quality. Also, some Swiss vendors have claimed to be receiving superior stock. It's all a crock of BS, made up by vendors/importers as selling arguments. You can get good or bad boxes, no matter where you buy. Some of the best boxes I've had were blind buys from
grey market vendors and I've had plugged PSP sticks. Your best bet is to select the box yourself from a vendors inventory, if you can. If you can't, Rob can take some of the guesswork out of it for you, but that is still not a guarantee for a perfect cigar.
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TheMonk   
On 09/09/2017 at 5:52 PM, Lotusguy said:

 


There is an "English market selection" sticker on boxes imported into UK and it is portrayed as higher quality. Also, some Swiss vendors have claimed to be receiving superior stock. It's all a crock of BS, made up by vendors/importers as selling arguments. You can get good or bad boxes, no matter where you buy. Some of the best boxes I've had were blind buys from
grey market vendors and I've had plugged PSP sticks. Your best bet is to select the box yourself from a vendors inventory, if you can. If you can't, Rob can take some of the guesswork out of it for you, but that is still not a guarantee for a perfect cigar.

 

This. Very much this.

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