Vintage Review: La Escepcion Coronas Extra Largas (1974/75)


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Fascinating.
I was only 8 when this cigar was made and I expect it's actually older than many FoH members! Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for posting.




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Many go to the "Recent Purchases" thread for their cigar porn.  Me, I kust wait for you to review yet another Vintage (capital 'V') Havana from a romantic period gone by.

I need to go vintage hunting in Canada soon!

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So how bad off was this cigar when you got it? Do you believe it was kept outside a humidor for much of its life? I'm always fascinated by the way people are able to revive old dry cigars. I feel I've ruined them if I let the rh drop while I'm on vacation for 2 weeks, yet people seem to be able to bring back years old cigars. Fascinating read!

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@bundwallah Thank you for taking the time to run and share with us your revival experiment. I find these types of posts incredibly informative. I must admit, I was surprised by the amount of tannin you found in your cigar that had well over 20yrs age and very little mention of floral or perfumey tobacco notes that are often found in super aged tobacco. 

" wine tannins on two draws, so it has a slight bitterness to it, but not something i’d call unpleasant / bitter chocolate / nice sharp, tangy flavour / sipping this cigar as slowly as possible to catch the nuances / nice white ash / bit more dark chocolate / some vegetal notes / ash falls off easy as i place the cigar back on the rest / tannic, with slight cocoa finish / some ice water to clean the palate / sharp, bitter chocolate / some good hits of sweetness and cedar on a few draws / chocolate / toasty tobacco / vegetal notes / slight canoe developing / correct the burn, thought i hated to do so / nice creamy coffee / some ice water again / wine tannins again / dark chocolate, slightly bitter, ashy finish  "

I have always been of the mind that revival is impossible, as once the cigar has completely "plumed" out its dead unless you could somehow artificially add oil extract back into the leaf at which point you might as well infuse it with coffee beans ala Drew Estate. For me, this just confirms the hypothesis that adding humidity to a dead stick is just that - adding water.

"  I wasn't sure there would be much to taste. Much to my surprise and delight, the revival process showed some promise over time in that there was still a very pleasant aroma from the wrapper and foot of these cigars "

Moisture amplifies aroma, what sort of aroma was it? 

The tasting notes tell me that this stick was a mere shadow of its former self. I wrote a review on the Selectos Italy Regional a few years ago, so this caught my eye. Thanks again for an excellent post. 

 

 

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On 8/3/2016 at 10:52 AM, ABQHank said:

So how bad off was this cigar when you got it? Do you believe it was kept outside a humidor for much of its life? I'm always fascinated by the way people are able to revive old dry cigars. I feel I've ruined them if I let the rh drop while I'm on vacation for 2 weeks, yet people seem to be able to bring back years old cigars. Fascinating read!

The main issues seemed to be the beetle holes in the one cigar.  They were a bit crispy but not hopelessly lost. AFAIK, they were in a walk-in humidor at the Montreal B&M for a long time.  The store has since closed.  There were signs of neglect on some otherwise really nice finds on there.  Late 80's Partagas Seleccion Privada (riddled with beetle holes) Some with some early 90's ERDM Choix Supreme.  (beetle farm).  A real shame.  

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On 8/3/2016 at 11:13 AM, Merovius said:

@bundwallah Thank you for taking the time to run and share with us your revival experiment. I find these types of posts incredibly informative. I must admit, I was surprised by the amount of tannin you found in your cigar that had well over 20yrs age and very little mention of floral or perfumey tobacco notes that are often found in super aged tobacco. 

" wine tannins on two draws, so it has a slight bitterness to it, but not something i’d call unpleasant / bitter chocolate / nice sharp, tangy flavour / sipping this cigar as slowly as possible to catch the nuances / nice white ash / bit more dark chocolate / some vegetal notes / ash falls off easy as i place the cigar back on the rest / tannic, with slight cocoa finish / some ice water to clean the palate / sharp, bitter chocolate / some good hits of sweetness and cedar on a few draws / chocolate / toasty tobacco / vegetal notes / slight canoe developing / correct the burn, thought i hated to do so / nice creamy coffee / some ice water again / wine tannins again / dark chocolate, slightly bitter, ashy finish  "

I have always been of the mind that revival is impossible, as once the cigar has completely "plumed" out its dead unless you could somehow artificially add oil extract back into the leaf at which point you might as well infuse it with coffee beans ala Drew Estate. For me, this just confirms the hypothesis that adding humidity to a dead stick is just that - adding water.

"  I wasn't sure there would be much to taste. Much to my surprise and delight, the revival process showed some promise over time in that there was still a very pleasant aroma from the wrapper and foot of these cigars "

Moisture amplifies aroma, what sort of aroma was it? 

The tasting notes tell me that this stick was a mere shadow of its former self. I wrote a review on the Selectos Italy Regional a few years ago, so this caught my eye. Thanks again for an excellent post. 

 

 

Sorry for the late response.  Your questions intrigue me.  The tannins one would taste would definitely be associated with "youth" which is why this cigar surprise me so much. I have smoked other vintage cigars that definitely have that floral aspect to it and then again, others that do not.  Some have exhibited an overall bold body.

As for the aroma at cold, I made reference to it a the top of the review.

I have zero clue what this cigar was like young, but I'd guess very strong.  Some of the opinions I've read on them seem to second that.  And as to why this cigar smoked the way it did I'm also at a loss. Perhaps some older, more experienced members can chime in?

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