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  2. oliverdst

    New App Habanos World

    oliverdst replied to oliverdst's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

  3. oliverdst
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.habanos.world https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/habanos-world/id1452263699?mt=8
  4. IanMcLean68

    can someone explain brexit?

    IanMcLean68 replied to Ken Gargett's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    There is a certain irony in the fact that we are discussing this issue on an online forum. It is too easy to try and place blame for the woes of society on todays technology. Yesterday it was computer games, the day before it was television, and the day before that it was rock music. As has been said before on this thread, people need to start taking responsibility again, everyone, not just the politicians. There really is no easy cure for this problem, because it is a chronic one, and a global problem. I don't see anyone here going out on the attack, let alone targeting a particular country. El Pres. is right, our governments, and their ineptness on a global scale is a reflection of the people that vote them in.
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  6. 99call
    Seven Labour MPs just quit, to set up as independants. I hope this trickle turns into a flood, to the point that John MacDonnald, Jeremy Corbyn, and Dianne Abbot are left out in the cold. Come on 'Old Labour'! lets get are act together and right the ship!
  7. JohnS

    FOH'ers Daily Smoke

    JohnS replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    Cohiba Robustos (2018 Xmas Sampler Series) The Cohiba Robusto would have to be one of the most popular Robusto cigars on our forum and one of the most popular Cohiba cigars too. It's not hard to work out why. Simply put, like the H.Upmann Connossieur A, it tends to provide a rounded flavour profile indicative of cigars that have been well-rested even when in their youth, and I'm taking about 6 to12 months in relation to the Cohiba Robustos. This was the 11th cigar I sampled from the 2018 Xmas Sampler Series and the reason it was left until next to last was because of my familiarity with it. It had all the hallmarks of what you want from a Cohiba Robustos; mocha coffee, vanilla, honey (towards the end interestingly) some spice and Cohiba grass (or hay). The strength was consistent throughout at medium-mild and it was easily 'nubbable', if that's a word! The retrohale was great too...roasted nuts or coffee beans is the best way to describe it, (it was) like heaven to the senses! Partagás Series No.1 2017 - Edición Limitada (2018 Xmas Sampler Series) This is the last cigar I smoked from the 2018 Xmas Sampler pack. I think the reason for doing so was because I didn't know what to expect, how did it compare to the 2014 Seleccion Privada Limited Edition, or normal regular production Partagas for that matter? El Pres has previously listed these as a mix of Partagas Serie E No.2 and Montecristo No.2 and after smoking it I see what he means. There is the Partagas sourdough, leather and coffee elements there combined with a strong chocolate and sweet baking spice note throughout. In comparison to the 2014 Seleccion Privada LE, that was more typical of the Partagas marca, with its uniquely (for a Limited Edition) rosado wrapper and strong paprika spice, this 2017 No.1 LE was more typically chocolate and less powerful. I just noticed that El Pres mentioned in a 24:24 listing that PCC were not going to supply this down the track so best of luck sourcing this in the future!
  8. Fuzz
    We have no miracle cure or penicillin for what is afflicting society. It may be sanguine, but you know what they did in the old days with diseased parts of the body...
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  10. AbasCigar
    This thread made me order one box of each:) can't wait to try them.
  11. CaptainQuintero

    can someone explain brexit?

    CaptainQuintero replied to Ken Gargett's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    A thing I've noticed is the vitriol that's seeped in. My best friend lives in Wisconsin and a decade ago we were having a discussion about how the US (Bare with me) was starting to divide, Bush Jr seemed to be starting point of polarisation. We both remarked that the only thing that could truly harm the US was itself, divide and conquer as the old adage goes. That happened, we can see it now from both sides. The worrying thing is that the UK is at the point where the US was around a decade ago; people are abandoning the middle ground because they are getting attacked by both extremes. Camps (Figurative) are forming and the politicians and media are throwing fuel onto it all. There's a comment above that shows no matter what the discussion, even if it's about a country thousands of miles away, there is now always an angle of attack. The antidote is pretty simple to me, you disconnect from the screen and go out and talk to people, share their experiences, help people. But it's not happening, people are forming into blocks and then only engage with those who's opinions match their own and re-enforce. Anyone else is viciously attacked. Economically things will always go up and down, hard Brexit or not, down the line people just get on with their lives. The real issue for me is the poison that's gotten into the veins of society. Brexit didn't cause it, I don't know what did, but I fear that once the rot has set in then it's too late.
  12. talumn

    24:24 Monday

    talumn replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    24:24 is awesome. One of the things I look forward to everyday
  13. liquid360
    LOL That’s the best idea I’ve heard!!! It is so HUGE! Here it is next to a box of Siglo I’s for scale [emoji4] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
  14. liquid360

    FOH'ers Daily Smoke

    liquid360 replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    In honor of this special day, it begins with a Trinidad La Trova. Why is this day special? Well, I’m glad you asked. Today is the anniversary of an event which altered our world in ways we don’t fully comprehend. It was on this day in 1930 that a cow was first milked while in flight. What’s this holiday called? Well, I am glad you asked. ‘Tis “Cow Milked While Flying in an Airplane Day” and so I’d like to wish you and your family a happy one. https://www.checkiday.com/bf810a3bfe1f0a8b8868f625be321ca1/cow-milked-while-flying-in-an-airplane-day Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
  15. IanMcLean68

    can someone explain brexit?

    IanMcLean68 replied to Ken Gargett's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    The last great platform we have for true freedom of speech and dissemination of information, and you have those stupid enough to throw that away. We really are a species of muppets aren't we. They deserve everything they get for their severe lack of foresight.
  16. 99call
    Rob, your comment sounds measured, informed and well thought out. My point is that many don't have your judgement, poise of thought or experience. Many gobble up the nonsense narrative that is stuffed down their throats. My point was, I don't agree with the concept that vulnerable parts of society, should be taken advantage of, just because it's possible. My point was that we seem to by unervingly comfortable the fact that political parties are no longer standing for something, and hoping we vote for them. They are now profiling us online, creating a policy on that, then corrupting our vote. I like many find them all to be a shower of muck, and see my political life, as a personal/local community thing. i.e. work hard, look after your family and people around you. try not to be an arsehole in general etc Sadly any human being of any worth, is too valuable to general society to ever consider giving up on life, and become a politician.
  17. 99call
    Life is being increasingly organised and mapped, to funnel everyones habits into a computer driven life. Yes teenagers can live some hermit-like existence and make their lives incredibly difficult by going 'off-grid', as you stated, but it's just not realistic. A bit like old age pensioners in the UK. All the small banks are being shut down in the countryside, and non-computer proficient people in their 90's, with sight, dexterity and hearing issues are being forced to use a platform, they don't want to. But I would suggest your logic it odd. The much more logical thing to do is to question the dark motives of facebook, not the idiocy of teenagers etc. Originally the use of most online platforms, was on a basis of being sold to through advertising.....now thats 100% fair. You don't get anything for free. Now however, people in poverty are effectively having their votes bought, and manipulated by companies like Cambridge Analytica. In conclusion, I agree it's a sad state of affairs that people are desperate enough to offer themselves up for this, I just find it odd that you seem to have no issue the sadder more perverse side to this. i.e the practice of these companies
  18. El Presidente

    can someone explain brexit?

    El Presidente replied to Ken Gargett's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    I have always loved this. “The Seven Social Sins are: Wealth without work. Pleasure without conscience. Knowledge without character. Commerce without morality. Science without humanity. Worship without sacrifice. Politics without principle. From a sermon given by Frederick Lewis Donaldson in Westminster Abbey, London, on March 20, 1925.” ― Frederick Lewis Donaldson
  19. El Presidente

    can someone explain brexit?

    El Presidente replied to Ken Gargett's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    At some point you need to take responsibility for your own actions. Your education (formal and/or informal), what you watch, what you read, what you eat, how you conduct and present yourself, what you value. You can't blame government. The community knows exactly what it is going to get from them (either side) and yet we are locked into this cycle of voting for muppets knowing full well that we are getting muppets and then complaining that the muppets are screwing up. Madness. Government is the purest reflection of the electorate. You get what you vote for. Our political scene here is chaotic, self obsessed, erratic, capable of good things, generally settling for mediocrity, wanting to be liked. It is a mirror of its people.
  20. Fuzz
    Being offered crap food to eat vs given cash to sign away your digital life are 2 different things. Food is a fundamental human right, a digital life is not. You can get by without ever having a digital life, but not the other.
  21. Webbo
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/mar/16/british-expats-in-spain-count-the-costa-brexit-video
  22. Baccy
    Says the guy from "Bay Area" rofl... How's that radical leftism treating you guys over there?
  23. CaptainQuintero

    can someone explain brexit?

    CaptainQuintero replied to Ken Gargett's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"

    I can't believe I managed to get a semi legible chunk of words out last thing before bed! I think the situation now sums up the quality of politics everywhere. It looks to be either no deal or May's deal, with leani g towards the former. The house of commons won't vote for May's deal unless the issue of Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK is changed, the result is no deal and a hard border with the republic of Ireland. The EU won't change the deal because it says that it could result in a hard border between Northern and Republic of Ireland, the result is no deal and a hard border. Neither side seem to realise the outcome of both results. RE Scotland breaking away, we now know what it would look like; a hard border between England and Scotland unless a deal is agreed with 27 other EU leaders who all want a piece of the pie for their personal gains. So the political and social future of the whole continent is broken for generations to come. The sad thing is that day 1, both sides could have signed a free trade agreement and spent the next two years working out the fine points, minimal disruption to both parties. But purely down to political ideology, both sides wouldn't. The was a little reported piece I read a few weeks back too: The UK was also the voting member who gave a majority to the German led 'upper tier' of members in regard to the EU budget and major decision making. With it gone the 'second tier' of countries with smaller GDPs, running at budget deficits, the ones who receive more than they give from the EU budget, will have the voting majority on decisions now. They will be setting how much each country pays in, who gets the most back, where develop is spent etc etc. The EU is in for fundamental change and a massive swing towards the sphere of Southern/Eastern Europe from Berlin and Paris. You can say that it's karma after there being a two tier system that only really benefited the big members, but regardless, think how momentous that sea change is going to be.
  24. Webbo
    This is such a complicated and contentious issue that I fear that its political nature could make it ultimately unsuitable for this forum. Already in this short thread I have seen comments that are fundamentally untrue but the line between opinion and fact is one that has blurred so much in the last years that it makes genuine discussions based on facts almost impossible as the first line of opposition is now inevitably the mantra that it is "fake news", "alternative facts" or "project fear". Indeed during the pre-referendum debates a prominent minister in the government stated "People in this country have had enough of experts" you could not make it up. I am a Yorkshireman living in the UK, with a company based in Germany and have lived for 8 years in Austria/Slovakia, I am British and also I am a European. My own person views are very much remain but irrespective of this my overriding feeling on this issue is that it is so complicated and difficult to understand with all the many implications of the UK's membership (or not) of the EU that it is simply not possible for the average man in the street (and I include myself in this category) to have a clear understanding such that a simple answer to leave or remain could be made on the ballet paper. The issues on membership and indeed the answers to any question the debate raises are so complicated that a simple short answer is not possible, sometimes it is just not. In today's instant society that is not acceptable to many people, simple answers are all many will accept. Also psychologically it is very difficult to "sell" the principle of something you already have vs the possibility of "jam tomorrow". Perhaps members should google British expat leave voters living in Spain, your heart will sink when you hear phrases like "we did not think it would effect our status us living here", "too many immigrants in the UK' and "we are not immigrants here in Spain, we are British". This does not of course represent a majority but it does show that these individuals where allowed to vote on a subject they know less than zero about. Without going into chapter and verse about why people voted one way or the other one thing is absolutely sure, the country is split almost exactly down the middle on this issue 50:50. I would have felt that on an issue so important to the future of the County then a 2/3rds majority should have been required if a referendum was held, too late now. The interesting thing is that the 50/50 split is not along party political lines which is why both main parties, Conservatives and Labour, are completely unable to move forward without alienating many of their voters so they are playing party above country politics, as usual. The glass is now broken and the genie well and truly out of the bottle, who knows what the future holds for UK outside of the EU but since the vote for in my opinion have got worse not better and I see no signs of that changing. At a time when the UK needs to draw on its history and tradition of moderation, fairness and democracy we are faced with a political system that is broken with the most ineffective Government and Opposition ever and the public's faith and trust in our politicians of all persuasions at an all time low.
  25. Mr. Japan
    It will be in Atwerp 2020.
  26. 99call
    As with Brexit, lots of impoverished areas of the country, bought into the lies and narrative of how Brexit was sold. You could argue that poverty is connected to a lack of informed political awareness. I don't agree with the logic that people should be offered crap to eat, on the basis they may be hungry enough/stupid enough to eat it.
  27. 99call
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/30/facebook-paid-13-year-olds-for-access-to-all-their-internet-data
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