asuavea1 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Had a vendor try to tell me these are the "new holograms" on the behike band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpenter69 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Which vendor? I've heard something about holograms recently, just can't remember what? Oh, maybe boxes with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLuis Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Pretty elaborate counterfeit. How do the sticks look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asuavea1 Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Not what one would expect of a Behike. Smell great, but I do not smoke fakes (that I know of) as you never know what is in them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLuis Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's just hard to tell based on bands alone. Particularly, because so many fakes are actually sporting legit bands. A box of Behikes should look immaculate, uniform and smell of heaven. The only exception I've had, was a box that came as if it had been dragged to my home. All the pigtails were off, and the sticks had been noticeably tossed around. Fortunately, the seller was extremely accomodating, and made the exchange without a bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asuavea1 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 The hologram is a security feature and is not subject to "Cuba being Cuba". Bad hologram; fake stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marker Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 There is a guy from reddit selling BHK with this band on them. His excuse was they are 2013 stock and have a new band. They have not changed the bands correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asuavea1 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 I have not found any reference to a change in the security feature of this band. Prez, can you help on this subject? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLuis Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 According to Cuban Cigar Website, those bands are not legit due to the hologram. The correct hologram looks like this (and matches my recent purchase.) Also, the indian head is wrong. It should have lines/ridges in it, and yours has a second silhouette of the head, rather than what should be another hologram, which is common among better faked bands. Is there any texture to that band - on the head in particular? Pretty elaborate fake, but it's not the real deal. Sorry. Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asuavea1 Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Saint, you are preaching to the choir. That is the web site I used to double check my suspicions. Just trying to get the word out about this vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLuis Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Pls PM me the vendor. Hope to hell it's not one of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroTrash Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I just purchased a box of 52s from a well respected LCDH in Havana. They also have the secondary hologram with the squares and are 2013 stock. While I cannot find any reference to the change in hologram, everything else about these is absolute perfection. They look, and smell absolutely legit. Other members have seen them and never questioned authenticity. I can't explain it, but have no other reason to doubt authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroTrash Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I should also mention that the box was sealed at purchase and the bar code comes back with the correct stick and authentic from Habanos. I cant fathom someone making absolute perfect fakes with proper holograms on the head and then just making up a new secondary hologram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLuis Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Very interesting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad680 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) I got these 54s yesterday from <moderated>. It drives me crazy to see the wrong small hologram. But the rest of the label is perfect. Box is also exact. How could there not be information about a new hologram if there actually was a change? At the same time, if everything else is so perfect, why clearly identify the band as a fake by making up your own new hologram...?Yes, my box is 2013. But I am still skeptical. Edited May 25, 2014 by Fuzz No mentioning sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad680 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) I got these 54s yesterday from <moderated>. It drives me crazy to see the wrong small hologram. But the rest of the label is perfect. Box is also exact. How could there not be information about a new hologram if there actually was a change? At the same time, if everything else is so perfect, why clearly identify the band as a fake by making up your own new hologram...?Yes, my box is 2013. But I am still skeptical. Edited May 25, 2014 by Fuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad680 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I am new and can't seem to get the photo to attach. I add it as an attachment, but it doesn't upload. Have tried both the advanced and non advanced method. Forgive the multiple posts. Once I went from my ipad to a pc images were no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pics show up but bad form and against forum rules to name sources, even if somewhat endorsed by Rob. I suggest you edit the name out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad680 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks Lotusguy. My apologies. It's interesting, it doesn't show up with the resolution of my uploaded photo. But in the boxes on the hologram between the ones with the head it reads (in the tiniest print) Cohiba, then a head, then Behike in the next. It is so fine and intricate that if you can counterfeit that, you have to be able to copy the small hologram everyone already knows. I had to get a magnifying glass to be able to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 PCC have confirmed today that the Hologram in question is indeed found on their current stock and that the Hologram must have changed some time in 2013. This is one of the reasons we do not mention vendors on the forum. Whomever this is would have been tarnished for doing nothing wrong at all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivetoCook Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Just returning from Havana and having bought some Behike 56 as singles and a complete box, I can say that the band shown by SUAVEJ & TOAD 680 are exactly the same as the ones that I have. I have also seen the conterfeit copies of the Behikes and Cohibas. They are nothing like what we see in the photos here. We could give them an ''A'' for effort, but to no avail could they even dream of getting a final note of over 40%. For the unaccustomed, it possibly could fly and they are getting better. The boxed Behikes that I bought are from a Casa del Habanos, while the singles were from a multitude of shops and they all have the same ring as shown. The top one where the head is shown, I see the little waves going about. I would say that these are the real stuff, otherwise I got plucked myself. But smoking them and knowing the sources, I would have to be confident that these are the true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivetoCook Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Oh!!! By the way, if you guys with the Behikes are worried about smoking these, I do volunteer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncat Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Habanos SA just announced a new band with additional features for the Behike on its web site. FINALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLuis Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hopefully the OP didn't toss them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2486 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hopefully the OP didn't toss them! Same, hope they still have them. I just received a box of BHK52's from the prez MUO ENE 14. These have the new hologram. This thread makes a good example of why publicly naming sources is a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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