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Tuesday evening smoke

fact is, smoking [anything] is bad for a countries health care system. any country with public healthcare will do everything in their power to reduce the number of smokers. in the end, smoking is bad for our health.

ATE ABR 17 P2 These are hitting great, finally developed that nice peanut note

"Including two PM's" - one of the nicest things to be said about Liz "pork markets" Truss and BoJo the clown. Even as a cigar smoker, I don't think this is a terrible idea. Not sure it'll work but I don't see the harm in trying to ensure fewer kids smoke. There will no doubt be a lot of right wing backlash but they're the sorts that would argue until they're blue in the face that more guns are needed in order to stop gun crime. I can see it now, stop this barbaric draconian blockade to youth smoking by giving each child a pack of fags for their third birthday, they deserve the right to choose in our "free" society.

BRC - Last PSP. Down to one box of HQ. Should have gone deeper.

I think so since it came in a CRA 2023 pack and from what I read he hasn’t released them yet. Will def try the regular line

Probably that nice telescope you’ve been eyeballing. But Sam Darnold will see that doesn’t happen 🤣

I wonder how much mine will be worth in 2047?🤔

Only 1 place I can see with any stock, £95 for a single coffin.

I just put $50 down at 80-1!

Brilliant minds Chas 😜

There’s a few of us still in need of a Vikings SuperBowl victory to try them. 😁

And there you are, part of the lucky quartet.😀🏈😈

Put it this way, there's already been eleven (11) auctions on Bond Roberts for the calendar year-to-date (which I believe is more than normal in comparison to other Habanos cigars), and there's been no issue reaching $US100 a stick, for starters, for stock aged five years or less.

In that case, perhaps tweezer's might be something to consider.

Past 12 months have been tons of HUHC, Epi2, Monte 2 and PSD4 - all recent productions. In very recent months, I’ve gone through an absolute heap of the Robusto Trinity. The smoke I miss most is undoubtedly the SC El Principe - just can’t find anything to replace the little guy.

Welcome to the world of the Czar!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68824493.amp MPs have backed a plan to ban anyone born after 2009 from buying cigarettes, effectively ensuring it will become law. The measures, championed by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, survived despite opposition from several leading Tory figures - including two ex-PMs. Health Secretary Victoria Atkins told MPs "there is no liberty in addiction" as she defended the plans. The Tobacco and Vapes Bill passed by 383 votes to 67. Speaking in the House of Commons, Ms Atkins said the plan would create a "smoke free generation". However, several Tory MPs, including former prime minister Liz Truss, voted against the bill, arguing it would limit personal freedom. Last week, ex-prime minster Boris Johnson called the smoking ban "absolutely nuts" during a speech at a Conservative conference in Ottawa, Canada. "When the party of Winston Churchill wants to ban cigars, donnez-moi un break as they say in Quebec, it's just mad," he said. Conservative MPs were given a free vote on the bill, meaning they were not ordered to vote with the government. But full support by Labour's front bench ensured the measures passed. There are still several more steps needed before it becomes law, such as votes in the House of Lords, but it is possible that the bill could now become law before the general election, expected in the second half of 2024. Labour's shadow health and social secretary Wes Streeting accused Mr Sunak of "putting the bill at risk" by granting a free vote "because he is too weak to stand up to the Liz Truss-wing of his party". "If we are privileged enough to form the next government, Labour will implement this ban, so young people today are even less likely to smoke than they are to vote Conservative," he added. In total 57 Tory MPs voted against the bill, including Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch and Conservative Party Deputy Chair Jonathan Gullis. Foreign Office minister Anne-Marie Trevelyan also signalled her opposition but ultimately abstained on the vote. Lee Anderson, an ex-deputy chair of the Conservative Party who defected to Reform UK last month, also voted against the bill. Mr Sunak used his conference speech in October of last year to unveil his plans to ban people born after 1 January 2009 from buying tobacco products. 'Free society' The debate on Tuesday was MPs first chance to debate the legislation implementing the ban. Ms Truss was one of the first to speak against the bill, telling the House of Commons it risked infantilising people. "It is very important that until people have decision-making capability while they are growing up that we protect them but I think the whole idea that we can protect adults from themselves is hugely problematic." Her concern was echoed by some of her fellow Conservative MPs. Former immigration minister Robert Jenrick, tipped as a potential contender to run for the Tory leadership, also came out against the policy. On social media he said he was against the bill because he "believes in personal freedom". "I also believe in the principle of equality under the law. A phased ban of smoking would be an affront to that," he added. Former minister Sir Jake Berry said he was more concerned about "the addiction of the government to telling people what to do" than he was about people addicted to nicotine. "I want to live in a free society where I am free to make both good and bad decisions." Ms Atkins said she understood their concerns about "banning things" but defended the bill arguing: "Nicotine robs people of their freedom to choose." "The vast majority of smokers start when they are young, and three quarters say that if they could turn back the clock they would not have started." Earlier in the day, England's chief medical officer Sir Chris Whitty said once people become addicted to smoking "their choice is taken away". "When I was a junior doctor doing surgery I remember the tragedy of seeing people, whose legs had had to be cut off because of the smoking that had damaged their arteries, outside the hospital weeping as they lit up because they were trapped by addiction - that is not choice." The bill also aims to make vapes less appealing to children, with new restrictions on flavours and packaging. Trading standards officers would also get new powers to issue on-the-spot £100 fines to shops selling tobacco or vapes to children, with all the money raised going towards further enforcement. Figures show that one in five children has tried vaping despite it being illegal for under-18s, while the number of children using vapes has tripled in the past three years.

Not what I want to hear right now.... Will report back. Soon I hope...

Ageism is rampant in the IT world.

Punch Punch

I am looking for a box or two of Punch DC's. If you can point me in a direction, please pm.

Can't find any available. Did find a box of 25 claimed it was in stock at £5000 🫡

I guess technically BHK is standard production, so that would be no. To be fair I recall the Monte A holding the Guinness world record for most expensive cigar in the world.

No bueno, too much dinero! I am el cheapo.