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  1. Solo parenting here so where's option for already do both. All. The. Time?
  2. But that doesn't mean you have to throw out the baby with the bath water, other cited sources show that nicotine can increase tumour growth in various cancers, for example - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11433349 There's a few of them around cancer growth though at the moment whether nicotine is actually cancer causing on it's own doesn't seem to be proven. (does make a lovely combination with the known carcinogens in cigarrette smoke when you think about it) or how nicotine suppresses the immune system - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8545837 etc plus the argument that a study isn't relevant because the nicotine was tested in combination with a substance that " increases in concentration in the gastrointestinal tract after a high fat meal" seems a bit harsh unless people don't vape/smoke after high fat meals... This seems like a relatively balanced approach to the results of one study that suggested vapiing could caues cancer last year - https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/01/30/headlines-saying-vaping-might-cause-cancer-are-wildly-misleading/ especially this bit - " E-cigs are a relatively new technology and so we can’t be certain about any long-term effects the devices might cause to health – they haven’t been around long enough for this to be completely worked out. But compared to smoking, the evidence so far shows they are less harmful. " I do get concerned when people say vaping has been popular for years, or around for 20 years I think someone said, hell even when it was definitevely known that smoking was bad for you it still took decades for people, even doctors, to take any notice. And before that people had been smoking tobacco for hundreds of years.
  3. Yeah, no. "A computer aided search of the Medline and PubMed database was done using a combination of the keywords. All the animal and human studies investigating only the role of nicotine were included. " There are 89 links at the bottom most of which are relevant. Your links - https://health.usnews.com/wellness/mind/articles/2018-07-12/is-nicotine-really-that-unhealthy There's a few warnings in hrre such as - " Smokeless tobacco products are also associated with cancer of the mouth, esophagus and pancreas, the CDC reports." "I don't view any of these products as safe," Kozlowski says. "[But] if you're inclined to use any of these nicotine-delivery products, you'd be better off using a product that doesn't involve the burning of tobacco." https://news.sky.com/story/nicotine-no-worse-than-cup-of-coffee-report-10349589 You paste links to how dangerous caffeine is, then one saying nicotine is no worse than coffee? And even this one has - " "There is some evidence that shows that it may increase the risk of heart disease and also potentially increases your blood pressure." " https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=pa0tucljwo4C&oi=fnd&pg=PR9&ots=XTpSLboldh&sig=Enz86HPMR8hnPzhTsRf2w6zN2_I#v=onepage&q&f=false Sadly the Google preview doesn't get as far as the bits I need to read but the description on Amazon does say it covers "Among the topics covered are cardiovascular disease, cancer, reproductive toxicity (including fetal toxicity and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome), behavioral toxicity (including abuse liability and addiction to nicotine medication), and gastrointestinal disease." And I'm betting its not all sunshine and lollipops. So I'm still saying nope to your original post -" Nicotine is physically harmless for adults."
  4. I hadn't realised this until looking into it now, so this discussion is educational at least, but apparently until the 1970's and even up to the mid 1980's homosexuality was considered a mental disorder! How things change over time.
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  6. Sorry I was reading a different ala page on marijuana - https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/marijuana-and-lung-health.html And I was comparing cigarrettes to marijuana, not cigars (though saying smoke is smoke will include cigars for most non cigar smokers). From webmd as another example - "Animal research suggests that some chemicals in marijuana work against tumor growth, which could explain why lung cancer isn’t showing up as often as scientists might expect in people who smoke it. The studies on this are in their early days, and researchers need to take a deeper look into this theory." So I agree with you on cigars, never said otherwise, but I don't think the evidence is there to say smoking marijuana is the same as smoking cigarettes risk wise.
  7. Hmmm, the ala on cigarettes - "Smoking harms nearly every organ in the body, and is a main cause of lung cancer and COPD. It also is a cause of coronary heart disease, stroke and a host of other cancers and diseases" The ala on cannabis - "leads to symptoms such as chronic cough, phlegm production, wheeze and acute bronchitis." Plus something about air bubbles which may or may not happen more than with non smokers. And may suppress your immune system (like drinking and cigarrettes do). And you know why they mention carcinogens and Not cancer? Because the link between marijuana and cancer has Not been proven. Some studies say yes, some no, possibly due to the Anti tumour effects of THC From myth busters - "There is a fourth study the BLF could have included, but we’re not surprised it didn’t. Donald Tashkin of the University of California has studied the effects of cannabis on the lungs for three decades and found that even smoking as many as 20,000 cannabis joints does not increase the risk of lung cancer. To what must be the BLF’s horror, he goes on to speculate that cannabis could even have a positive effect on the health of a smoker’s lungs. The active ingredient tetrahydrocannabinol or THC may have an “anti-tumoural effect” in which cells die before they age enough to develop mutations that might lead to lung cancer." So yes, smoking anything is probably bad for your lungs, no smoking one thing is not necessarily the same as smoking another.
  8. Smoke is smoke is like saying drink is drink when comparing squash and spirits. No smoking marijuana isn't risk free, but to compare it with smoking cigarettes! It also doesn't help our case as cigar smokers to say all smoking is the same.
  9. Followed, but you need to add at least 50 hash tags per post and start doing obvious product placement as though you'd been drinking product x multiple times a day forever and no mention of sponsorship or freebies of course...
  10. Doesn't this come back to nicotine being either a stimulant or a relaxant depending on the mode/rate of absorption? Stimulants (fast absorption, cigarrettes/vapes etc) generally being appetite suppressants, I wonder if therefore relaxants (slow absorption, cigars (not all cigars I guess)) could increase appetite? And hence the aforementioned big bonedness...
  11. They were available for as little as £45 though the exchange rate was better so probably $65-70. I bought a few.

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