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  1. I'm in the 3rd group. I analyse them first, then smoke them. After that I make a spreadsheet.
  2. Thanks for that! And thanks for this too - it is something that has been bugging me for a while. When I see inconsistencies, it's easy to write them off as there seem to be ,any in the Cuban cigar world! But it's nice to know that there is sometimes logic to their irregularities.
  3. Yeah, I probably could - I like my speadsheets. Actually, I want to know the answer to that lol. Why are they sometimes called Marevas, and sometimes Petit Coronas? And also, what is the correct single and plural version in Spanish? Is it Corona (single) and (Coronas) plural? I use, and have seen used, both Corona & Coronas as singular - same with Robustos. Just to clarify something I didn't mention in my original rant - we obviously need both groups of people on this planet, not just the first group. And posters in both groups can be rude and disrespectful - not just the 2nd group. In fact, quite often when the 2nd group are rude, they don't even realise they are being rude. Whereas when someone in the first group is rude, it is likely more premeditated and spiteful lol.
  4. Hello friends, I've noticed, in my short time here, that many threads seem to display two groups of posters who employ the following attitude towards the topic being discussed: 1 - Let's analyse things, learn more, compare thoughts, share opinions, agree, disagree, argue. 2 - Relax, enjoy, don't stress yourself or over-analyse things. I must say that I place myself, almost every single time, in the first group. Everyone has different motives for joining a community like this. One of my main motivations is simply to learn more about cigars, and one of the best ways to learn is by interacting with others. Sharing what you know, testing your assumptions against evidence from others, being able to admit when you are wrong, considering other people's point of view, not being afraid to disagree, along with providing sensible reasons and/or evidence for your difference of opinion. What I really find offensive, are those people who want to discourage any kind of progress or learning because the subject matter doesn't appeal to them. Progress is made by people who ask questions and have the motivation to learn and try new things. If we were all in group 2, we would still believe that the earth is flat, because there is no need to worry ourselves about what shape it is! There are times when a member has asked a question like 'Are these cigars fake?' or 'Does it matter if my RH fluctuates by a few percent?' Of course, in those cases it can be quite apt to tell them not to worry. But when someone has asked a more complicated question, and the replies have started a debate, why would you intervene to let the participants know that their discussion is of no interest to you? If you see a question and think to yourself 'that is a pointless thing to ask' then your contribution to the thread is going to be equally pointless. Why not find another thread to join? Just because you find a question boring/stupid/worthless, it doesn't mean the question, or indeed the answer(s), won't be useful to someone else. Another type of question commonly asked is something more lighthearted and fun, such as 'What music do you like to listen to when you smoke?'. Actually I made that one up, but similar questions appear all the time. Again, there will be some people who feel the need to chime in and tell us 'Who cares about this? Why worry about what music is in the background?? Stop thinking about this!!'. It would be enough for you to simply state that you don't care about music when you smoke. There is no need to discourage or ridicule the person who started the thread, unless you find it offensive in some way, in which case there is a procedure for reporting these threads. So often, I see people accused of 'over thinking' or 'over analysing'. Well, there is something worse than over-thinking. It's not thinking - and this has become a very popular hobby for some. Relax, enjoy, but don't forget that you also have a brain and, more importantly, you are allowed to use it.
  5. Congratulations Sir! I would probably go with a box of 10 Siglo VI. They're special, and the 10 box is really nicely presented. Mind you, you said that you want a minimum of 10 great smokes, so it might be somewhat difficult to find 10 great cigars in a pack of 10....let's go with a cab of 25 for safety!
  6. Bolivars are my favourite, although I haven't tried that many different tubos. When I started out, tubos were the most ubiquitous variety available locally, and so I went through a period of smoking only these.
  7. I recently did a tasting of several different boubons. I put Woodford Reserve near the top, but the winner for me was Evan Williams. It was smoother than the others. Bulleit Bourbon took 2nd place. Haven't tried Blantons though - I'll have to check that out. Interesting that you don't like to match smoother bourbons with cigars. Perhaps this will be an opportunity for me to finish all the rough ones lol. I have about 10 bottles with one sample missing from each.
  8. I find that a hot meal or hot drink helps to open things up a bit right before smoking.
  9. I hate flying, but welcome to the forum.
  10. Right now, the Médaille d'Or No. 4 is the only one that comes in that size. My list only includes the sizes that come up at least 3 times in regular production.
  11. Sorry for the errors! I missed out a huge chunk when counting! Sooooo, after 105 posts, recalibration of the abacus, and several recounts....The winner is......... Oh, and we can add one to the BPC if we count your Tubos No. 2
  12. Yeah, you're right. Hmmm, not sure how I missed all those mentions lol. I think I may have not counted the first page of this thread. Either that, or everyone has gone back and edited their posts to make me look bad. I think we both know which it is!
  13. Yeah, this was the other reason for the thread lol.
  14. According to the Cuban Cigar website, they are still around. Rob can probably tell you about these, as it's also his favourite size.
  15. That site is full of incorrect information, and certainly not one that I would recommend as a resource. Also, I don't think a comparison, by eye, is an accurate way to judge different sizes. Even if I did, does that page really seem like a good way to compare two different sizes? The vitolas you wish to compare might be miles apart. There is also no clear way to see which vitolas are the most common.
  16. Ok, so here is the same thing using Planetary's correct formula. It shows around a 2% difference from the official weights.
  17. You guys are absolutely right - my formula is not an accurate representation of the volume of a cigar. It should be the diameter multiplied by the length. However, the purpose was to come up with a way of ordering vitolas by size, so I think this is still accomplished. I didn't believe weight to be a reliable indicator, due to differences in humidity. I didn't know that 'official' weights were available, until I saw Planetary's link. I still think that calculating the volume ourselves would be more accurate than any 'official' figures from Cuba. The point was to find out how the size of one vitola compares to another. For example, which is bigger, Coronas Gordas or Coronas Grandes? It's not easy to know this without seeing the figures. The other point was to see a listing of the most common sizes, and how many cigars are produced in each vitola. New smokers will not have any clue what the difference is between a Dalias and a Cremas. Generally, I create things that would have been helpful to me when I was starting out. This way of viewing the main vitolas and their levels of production is helpful to me, so I thought it might help someone else.
  18. Well, it worked - although it took me more time and effort lol. I draw comfort from the knowledge that I did not burden your server with my 22kb file
  19. I wasn't sure if you were asking for the lowest prices we find in our own countries, or the rock bottom price we have found for the cigars listed. Here are the lowest prices I could find in the UK (don't get any ideas lol): And the best worldwide prices from a vendor I have used and know to be genuine:
  20. I'm not new to Cuban cigars, but I have been away for a few years (things have changed a lot in terms of what is available), and I have recently become more interested in sampling different brands/vitolas. So, I created a spreadsheet sorting all the current Cuban vitolas by size. This helps me to learn the different sizes, and to have a way of comparing them. I used a formula to calculate cigar size as follows: ((Ring Gauge)*(length))/100. I don't know if this kind of thing has been done before, but I find it useful to determine the overall size of the cigar - the formula basically calculates the volume of tobacco in a very basic way. Of course, there are some minor complications with Torpedos, and especially the Perfecto/Presidente shapes. I hope that newcomers to cuban cigars might find this useful. I have all cigars in the spreadsheet, and anyone who wants it is welcome - but here is a list of the most common sizes, as a guide to what vitolas are currently being produced, and which are most abundant. I have not counted cigars where the same size is available in an aluminium tube, and only vitolas that occur in current regular production more than twice are included. I added the smallest and largest vitolas out there for reference. Torpedos have a 5% reduction in volume to account for the shape, and no Perfecto made the list. By Size on the left, and by most common vitola on the right:

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