DrStogie

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  1. Not like that lol, your quote starts mid sentence
  2. You cut the quote in half so it doesn’t make sense. Read the full thing for context. I said there isn’t a cc yet I haven’t enjoyed and I’ve almost tried one from every brand.
  3. I’ve had one Behike 54 that was gifted to me by a very nice and very rich friend of mine. It ran him $100 for the stick so they can be way up there and you probably won’t find any cheaper than that now since they’re in production limbo at the moment. Was it worth it? Yes, without a doubt. It redefined complexity and perfect construction in a cigar for me. Talk about a journey, each draw had some different equally impressive element and the stick itself almost looks unreal it’s rolled so masterfully and with such a golden sheen to it. It looks more like a drawing of a perfect cigar than something that actually exists. The pre-light aroma alone is wicked dreamy, but with all that said, I wouldn’t buy any myself, especially not at this time because although they‘re worth what you pay for, I can’t in good conscience spend upwards of two grand on a box of 10 cigars. I‘m just a landscape/construction foreman putting myself through college after all, I’d rather put that money into hundreds and hundreds of por larranagas.
  4. Yeah that gets me too. I dropped $750 on a box of COROs last year and I was really anxious about it because I would be really pissed if the box didn’t perform. Only had a few so far but all have been too notch. One of them had less flavor than the others, but they’re still young and it still had more flavor and a better draw and construction than most other CCs.
  5. Those are all the brands I haven’t had yet. What is the Quai d’Orsay vitola you referenced? Fundies, Lgc no 2, and sir winnies have been on my radar for a while, it the winnies are too expensive from the only vendor that has them and I haven’t seen fundies or any lgcs for awhile. I see partagas lusitanias as comparable to Cohiba class. I think por larranagas are a classy smoke too. Not complex, but often refined and elegant.
  6. Couldn’t agree more on the aroma, it’s tantalizing. The unavailability is really annoying, particularly if you’re in the US. I can almost never get my hands on them. All other CCs are wicked cheap on the US market, but I payed around $750 for a box of robustos recently. I get it though and appreciate it because with limited resources they’ve committed to quality over quantity. The flashy bands are a bit much too, but I also get that because they’re so often faked, all that jazzy holographic stuff is tough to convincingly replicate.
  7. Extremely well said, especially with the Georges Seurat painting analogy. I see what you mean, to many they’re probably too pristine and thus lacking any edgy character. Contrarily that’s why others love them, there’s often not a rough edge to speak of. I like both, I haven’t had a CC yet I haven’t enjoyed and I’m getting close to having tried every brand. I wholeheartedly agree, there’s really not much earthiness to speak of in Cohiba and like you, that’s something I really go for in a stick, yet I appreciate its absence as well. I agree with the sweetness too. Cohibas really are dessert in a cigar. I figured the biggest problem people probably have with Cohiba is the blend. Instead of like a Georges Seurat, I like to think of Cohibas more like Renaissance sculptures. They demonstrate a level of skill in tobacco growing, blending, rolling, and packaging that can really only be achieved by experts who have devoted most of their life to the craft.
  8. This is probably going to start a war, but I want to hear the opinions of those who dislike Cohiba. Personally, I love them dearly, but I’m not a millionaire and they are obscenely expensive. You get what you pay for and they are almost always elegant, expertly constructed, exquisite smokes, but it still doesn’t really justify going into debt for them. For me, it’s nice to have a box or two from which to smoke a few sticks a year from and continue aging. I also don’t want something so fancy most of the time. I do think the flavors are astonishing and they’re also the most relaxing, contemplative smokes. I’m just so happy and at ease burning one. However, I can easily see how many would dislike Cohiba . There’s a few CCs that are wholly unique and completely unlike any other brand, but Cohiba seems to takes this as a challenge. It’s definitely an acquired taste! I’m curious what your opinions are on this marca, particularly from those who are not fans of it.
  9. This is a new cigar for me, only my second BBF stick, which I figured would be a good time to give my two cents with a fresh perspective. These were always talked up so much to me and I’m happy to confess they not only lived up to, but also exceeded the hype. The wrapper is Colorado Claro and not too oily or with too impressive of a sheen and relatively veiny, but not excessively. The stick appears perfectly filled and an angled cut produces a perfect draw. Before the light, it has a milk coffee character in aroma and cold draw with some cedar. This cigar is medium-full bodied, but medium-under in flavor, that is to say it’s not in-your-face but the flavors are nonetheless vivid and there’s an abundance of them. In the first third there’s tons of creamy milk coffee, which persists throughout. You could definitely compare this to a Monte 2. The mouth feel is buttery as is the flavor. More butter on the front, coffee on the finish. It’s somewhat Juan-Lopez like in this aspect. The draw is perfect. A delightful, hoyo de monterey grassiness seeps in towards the back end of the first and continues throughout the cigar. A very light and elusive baking spice makes a few appearances as well as a light cedar and moments of milk chocolate. I enjoy these kinds of flavor teases accompanied by the persistent creamy, buttery, milk coffee grassiness marca characters. The masterful construction is apparent as the ash holds for half the length of the cigar. The final third continues much the same with the addition of some almond and macadamia nut. I even noticed a bit of cheese and leather just for a second here and there. All and all it’s a fantastic stick. It definitely has Montecristo, hoyo de Monterey and Juan Lopez elements but not without a plethora of its own supremely unique qualities. At 4 years of age, it really is perfect. I’ll be looking for a box as soon as I can. Well done Bolivar.
  10. I appreciate it but for some reason searched don’t work at all for me on the forum
  11. I just ordered my first box of these. I‘m very excited since they seem to be right up my alley in terms of vitola and flavor. What can you tell me about these from your experience
  12. I’m jealous of the siglo iiis and your stash in general. That’s a great collection. Cohibas probably age the best, followed by por larranaga and partagas.
  13. Where do you live? Australia? I ask because my own collection is just starting to take form nicely, but I live in the states and it’s been very hard to do. Guys are recommending Trinidad fundadores, for instance which is a great suggestion I’m sure, but they’re almost never available for me. What I have going so far is Partagas shorts, 25 dress box (50 cabs are probably better if you can get them, but the dress box was ironically cheaper and I didn’t have a lot to spend at the time) Por Larranaga Petit Coronas, 50 cab Por Larranaga Montecarlos, 25 dress box Juan Lopez No. 2, 25 cab Cohiba Robustos, 25 cab Montecristo No. 3s, 25 dress box (very good cigar, but I’m reluctant to buy more myself because there was a lot of subpar cigars in my box) It’s a pretty good beginner collection though I’m missing a few key elements, I’d like some DCs or Churchills preferably lusitanias, some corona gordas, which I’ve never had before, and lonsdales which I also have never had.
  14. Awesome, this is the exact thread I was talking about. What’s interesting is I’m pretty sure Seinfeld precipitated the 90s cigar boom not the other way around. The show made Cubans and their preeminence relevant again. It also probably has something to do with CCs being exceptionally good in the 90s. Though they were about to seriously decline because of fertilizer scarcity after the fall of the USSR, those effects had not been felt yet.
  15. I love it when idols of mine appreciate CCs. I remember seeing a post in here about Larry David and that he at least used to love CCs. You can see him smoking a few in early Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes. In the post it was stated he seems to love his Montes and I agree as what he smokes definitely looks like them and he appears to enjoy large big ring gauge special releases. I wanted to bring this up again because I’ve been watching the show again and in the penultimate season you can see he’s still smoking large Montes on the golf course so he’ll probably be an enthusiast to the end. Many of you probably know that Seinfeld and later the Sopranos was instrumental in the renewed CC enthusiasm in the 90s. In Seinfeld Kramer gets a box regifted by George from Susan’s dad, “the kind Castro smokes,” but they actually look like Ramón Allones Gigantes as it’s a big green box of DCs. Close enough anyhow, though probably most of us know he preferred a much thinner ring gauge and definitely smoked either Cohibas or Trinidads, though I’m quite sure it was Cohiba, at least to begin with, maybe Trinidads later. Anyway, it confirms they actually smoked Cubans which is cool and Michael Richards is of course also a verified CC lover. I love that LD loves Cubans because as many of you know he’s a notorious despiser of cigarette smoking. This just goes to show that enjoying CCs is absolutely nothing at all like smoking cigarettes outside of the superficial similarity of being combustible tobacco products. Who are your favorite famous CC smokers?
  16. Definitely. I did forget I’ve also been looking to get some BBFs in my rotation for awhile. They sound right up my ally and from what I heard they’re the pinnacle of consistency. The big things missing from my humidor right now are figurados and dcs. I also want more long skinnies but those are all hard to come by and very expensive for me right now
  17. Newer smoker here and I figured I'd provided my perspective on the dozen or so sticks I've had so far: Montecristo No. 2: great medium-full smoke, typically superb in construction and draw, symphony of coffee, cream, wood, spice, leather, and chocolate in a complex balance, 93 Montecristo No. 4: I've heard these compared to 1s and 3s, but personally I thought it much more in line with No. 2s, just without the chocolate and spice. They're also milder. Good construction, despite crummy wrappers, good simple cheap and cheerful, 90 Montecristo Edmundo: usually about dead set medium for me. I also find them similar to No. 2s but also without as much chocolate and leather. In its place the coffee, cream, and wood is much more dominant. I find it comparable to Partagas Serie D No. 4s but not quite as good. I'm impressed by the relative subtlety and complexity in both these cigars for a reasonably priced robusto. Mine had ugly, claro wrappers but were constructed well and smoked great, 92 Partagas Serie D No. 4: like a better Edmundo, has the same flavor profile but with even more. I get chocolate and Christmas cake with baking spice and raisiny notes as well as some stone fruit. Nice wrapper, great construction, perfect draw, probably one of the best you can buy for the money. I see why they're so popular and becoming increasingly more so, 93 Partagas Lusitania: a revelation for me, the first CC to knock my expectations of what a CC can be into the stratosphere. Shockingly impeccable construction for such a large stick with beautiful oily Colorado wrappers, burn great with long solid ash. They do, however, often require a few re-lights. What's so impressive about these sticks is their fullness of flavor coupled with an undeniable subtlety and smoothness. The balance of flavors is delicate. It's an altogether relaxing smoking experience mostly consisting of fruit cake, baking spice, stone fruit, ginger, coffee and cream, 96 Cohiba Robusto: an almost perfect medium-full stick with infallible construction. They look almost unreal, like someone drew a perfect cigar and they burn much the same, razor sharp and perfectly even. The draw is tight but the smoke and flavor output is somehow unrivaled, a staple of fine Cuban construction. Replete with unique Cohiba flavors like honey, grass/hay, coffee, cream, stone fruit, a touch of baking spice, and something else I find hard to describe in Cohiba, but I think it's best expressed as a piece of spongecake with orange and cream, absolutely decadent and almost desert like in flavor, 96 Cohiba Siglo II: also impeccably constructed and perfect in burn. I get a lot of what I got out of the Robusto in these, but they're much milder not quite as decadent. I found them citrusy like the Robusto but more lemon, where the Robusto was orange, 94 Partagas Shorts: I absolutely love these little sticks. Full in flavor and body and boasting a myriad of notes in a unique balance. There's an abundance of espresso, fruit cake, baking spice, stone fruit, vanilla, cream, white pepper, black pepper, and green bell pepper. It's almost like Habanos challenged themselves to fit as much quintessential cuban flavor into a tiny little smoke as they could and they succeeded. Generally good construction despite some of the ugliest claro wrappers you've ever seen. Though delicious I have had several plugged or rolled too tight, it usually is fixable but definitely a pain in the ass. It's also definitely worth it for the flavor and they're an unbelievable bargain, 91 Montecristo No. 3: I was majorly disappointed by these. I've only had one box so I likely just got a bad one and that's not to say I didn't have some great ones. At their best they're medium-full with beautiful oily Colorado madero wrappers. They were the first cigars I got a bread-like quality out of, specifically sourdough and it's a really nice flavor, it's coupled with chocolate but more like a cocoa powder than regular chocolate as well as notes of wood and spice. It's the most unique and least like other Montecristos I've had so far. My sticks had a lot of construction issues though, tight and plugged with wonky burns on a lot, really disappointing. Furthermore some were completely lacking in flavor altogether being completely muted or actually tasting like slightly stale meat at times, really unpleasant. What's really too bad is that this is a perfect vitola too and a rare one. The corona size is an excellent shape that should be more popular 85 (I want to give these another try, they probably deserve it, but I'm reluctant) Juan Lopez Selección No. 2: delightful robustos with a spiced rum-like quality to them. I also find Pres's synopsis dead-on that they're like a buttered crescent that's less sweet and more like a baking spice flavor. They also have some Christmas cake and raisins, bit of cream and coffee too. Medium-full and construction is top notch despite rugged ugly wrappers. Really reliable stick, 93 Hoyo De Monterry Epicure No. 2: very unique smoke and truly mild. Superb construction which holds ash a long time. Not complex at all but dominated by really pleasant waves of cream and grassiness. One thing that's really interesting is their creaminess without coffee which is unusual for a CC. Great cigar, but a little mild and simple for my tastes. Not something I would necessarily seek out, but I agree with most that it's the perfect summer smoke. If I had a lot of extra money, I would definitely consider some boxes, objectively a great cigar though, 92 Cohiba Behike 54: the most beautiful cigar I've ever seen in my life, shiny and gold and delicious to the nose without even lighting it up. The most perfect burn and construction you could ask for. This cigar is incapable of burning unevenly or delivering a single bitter note. Similar in flavor to the robusto, but much more decadent and desert like. It's even sweeter, but also stronger, I'd say definitely a full bodied cigar. It's strongest flavor seems to be that creamy orange spongecake note and it's divine. The best part about these is how not one puff seems to be exactly the same as the last. They're unfathomably complex and deliver a journey like I've never seen in a cigar. Truly impressive and completely relaxing. You almost feel bad for smoking something so rare and perfect. You don't want another cigar after one of these, everything else pales in comparison, 98 Por Larranaga Petit Corona: another very unique cigar. I think everyone knows where I'm going in that they have an unparalleled caramel quality to them. It's accompanied by toasted tobacco, wood, spice, and sometimes some floral notes. Ugly wrappers but perfect burn and construction. I do occasionally get that same terrible taste I got from some Monte 3s in these but it's usually short lived and doesn't ruin the whole cigar. It's a very mild smoke but full of flavor. Some of the young ones are very strong in contrast however, but never bad, the mongrel ones are great too, 94 What are your thoughts? Any suggestions to try next? The next CC I will try is a por larranaga Montecarlo as I just bought a box of those. I'd like to try more brands too, primarily H Upman, La Gloria Cubana, Romeo Y Julieta, and Saint Luis Rey. I like thinner ring gauges, though I can't deny some of the best cigars come in larger ones.
  18. I’d like to request a review of Cohiba coronas especiales at some point. The lancero has been reviewed often, but to my knowledge I’ve never seen one for coronas especiales. This would be big for me because in the 6 years I’ve been smoking habanos, I think I’ve only seen lanceros on the market once or twice and it was a time that I could not afford them. The coronas, however, have been readily available for me the entire time.
  19. Thanks, I will have no problem smoking them slowly, that’s my MO at any ring gauge. Quick smoking definitely spoils flavor. I probably smoke the slowest of almost anyone I’ve ever heard of, especially with thin ring gauges. PCs and Coronas regularly take me an hour or more.
  20. I just saw a box of montecarlos for sale so I bought them. I've been meaning to save up more dough before I spring for some boxes, but these are so cheap I figured I better grab some while I have the chance, they're only available a few times a year, if lucky, for me. I'm excited because I've wanted a vitola like this for quite some time, the long slender size says old Havana to me which is so cool and many seem to endow these vitolas with a more concentrated flavor as well. The only por larranaga I've had so far has been the classic petit corona. I got a 50 cab about 6 months ago and intend to age them to that 5-8 range for the most part and keep buying boxes so I can smoke some young ones in the meantime too. I've only had 2 or 3 of them, but I really like them. What it lacks in complexity I think it makes up for in uniqueness. Though they're usually considered very mild, I found mine to be pretty damn strong, like some of the stronger Habanos I've ever had, right up there with partagas shorts. I guess this is pretty typical though and the caramel laden mildness comes more with age if I'm not mistaken. When young, they boast heaps of "mongrel." I found this to be true. The flavors were a little muddied by youngness, but I was also impressed by the presence of caramel already there, in a very small quantity mind you, but I was happy to have noticed it and expect more down the road. Other than that I thought it had a delightful sweetness throughout, I got sugarcane through most of it, toasted tobacco, and wood with baking spice (cinnamon/nutmeg) here and there as well. All and all a great smoke, one of my favorites, and it sounds like they only get better which is exciting. How do the montecarlos compare? What should I expect for flavor? What should I look out for as possible problems? Do you consider these a good buy? And probably most importantly, what do you think their sweet spot is for aging? People seem to like these a lot too, especially for a casual smoke. I hope I will feel the same.
  21. I've had an opportunity to try this. Even though the video experiment exceeded expectations in the first trial, I'm reluctant to rush out, dry up, and dunk every cigar I come across lol, but I've had a couple of years break from Habanos due only to time and monetary restrictions. I'm back now and am just beginning to stock the humidor. For my first box, I went with Partagas Shorts BOE SEP-19. So they're already over a year. At first glance I was excited by this, I figured they'd be ready for a pleasant smoke, but upon opening the box, they were quite dry ?, not on the verge of cracking or anything, but lacking the easy pliability that a good cigar should have. I now see why they were on sale ? I just got them today and I don't even want to waste a cigar by trying the dry ones for comparison. I dunked one, smoked it... marvelous. I had the same experience as in the video. I think it really improved the body of the smoke, it maybe burned a little off and went out a few times, but that's probably mostly due to the weather in this part of the world. All in all, it was splendid. I'm teetering around 89-90 for what I would give the cigar. The only reason it's probably short of 90 is a bit of green, harsh, bitterness towards the last third, but that's forgivable in a younger batch. I see good potential for smoking half of these now and as good potential for putting half away for 3-5. Really flavorful and burned nice and evenly throughout (despite some of the weather related issues I had). Outstanding for a cigar of this size. Mine actually lasted quite long too. It lasted an hour and forty minutes, which is a marathon for one of these. They're usually about half an hour right? Perhaps that was also due to the weather? About 40F/F.5C around here, or maybe it was due to the initial dryness or the water added? The only real drawback I had was the draw was very firm. Not overly firm, but it was closer to over than the sweet spot. I blame the initial dryness for this. I have an idea to work around this downside, perhaps an idea for another FOHrensics? As I mentioned, I've been out of the Habanos game for a couple years. Unfortunately, I've wound up with some improperly humidified sticks from lack of care in my off years. Mostly, Monte 2s and Partagas Lusitanias. Before I was aware of the water dunking trick, I came up with my own which also seemed to work quite well. What I did was set a pot to boil and then once boiling, lowered it to a steamy simmer, attached a loose barbecue/grill plate to the top of the pot and let a Monte 2 sit there, turning it ever so often to ensure even humidity. Since it was so dry, not cracking dry, but dry enough to smoke poorly, I hoped this would over-humidify it to relieve some pliability and once it was a bit soggy, it could then be dried out for an hour or two and be ready to smoke. This worked out perfectly and it was a relatively enjoyable cigar. It wasn't as good as the Partagas Short but I think that's only because the cigar was worse off to start in terms of dryness. I suggest trying this method too if you're looking to not only re-humidify a cigar, but also to get that moisture deep enough that it will loosen up the hardened draw of an overly dry stick. Where I'm at now, I'm 100% satisfied with the FOHrensics water test and I think that's exactly what my box of shorts need for the ones I intend to smoke now. The draw isn't perfect, but it's certainly good enough for me. Another thing I'm doing is laying them in a humidor, slightly over humidified, at just over 70% RHF. I'm hoping this will slowly bring them back to that slightly pliable state and then revert back to 60% RHF for long term storage. My hope is that this will improve the draw as well as the flavor. Is this the right thing to do? As for the 5 or so shorts I intend to smoke in the next coming months, I see nothing wrong with using the water trick, just bear in mind that while it definitely has a positive effect on draw, I don't think it brings the cigar around full 180 in that regard. Did you guys have a similar experience in the experiment?
  22. PS I see you're in Florida, the Australia of the US lol. I also lived down there for a couple years. Winter Park/Orlando at first and then Naples. That's where I bought my first cubans and solidified the hobby. Much better climate for cigars than where I'm at now lol.
  23. Thanks for the input! All look like good suggestions. You pretty much nailed what I’m looking for. The Fundadores are definitely one I’d like to get my hands on. I’ve been eyeing a box of them along with Lanceros for some time now as I’m sure most enthusiasts are. Sadly, they’re out of my price range at the moment. I’ll have to start looking for those after a good raise or bonus, or if I win the lottery lol. Montecristo Especial No. 1s are out of stock from my vendor but the 2s are in and at a great price so as far as Montecristo, I’m considering those along with 1s and 3s, which from what I hear are all smoking terrific right now. Of those, I think the Especial No. 2 is the front runner because I assume they’re probably harder to come by? LGC MD04s also look great, but they are also out of stock for me. Connie 1s are also out of stock for me... in boxes. However, they do have sampler packs of 6 which include the Connie 1 along with the A and Bs which sound like they’re also winners. The sampler is at a good price and the A and Bs aren’t even on the map anywhere else for my vendor so this is also something to consider. Epi Especials are in at a good price and in boxes of 10 which I like because I’m thinking I want to diversify rather than buying too many 25, 50 boxes. PLPCs are in stock and at a great price. They only come in cabinets of 50 though but they seem almost universally lauded. At $5 a stick I don’t think I can go wrong. I can’t see myself not enjoying these. It also sounds like they have good aging potential which is only made easier with 50 so I think all signs point to yes. PLMCs are also in for boxes of 25 at $5 a stick. These look glorious, both PLs are such a bargain. I’m willing to spend about $500 on Cubans this month. I want to try new things but I’m also just starting to restock the humidors so I also want to add some familiar faces. I’m going to want some Montecristos, Partagas, and Cohibas all there for safety’s sake. The way it’s looking right now. I’m leaning towards 25 Montecristo Especial No. 2s and 25 PLMCs, which leaves me $130 for a couple 3 or 5 pack Cohibas. I’m from greater Hartford area. I’ve lived in a lot of towns/cities. Manchester, Glastonbury, Hartford, Middletown, and now I’m in the process of moving to Storrs. I just applied to UCONN to finish my degree.
  24. Thanks for the recommendation, I appreciate it. I was already highly considering Monte 1s for my next box. It’s good to know they’re a sound choice.

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