Ginseng Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Just wondering, for those who bought a box or more of the Regional Asia Pacifico Ramon Allones Estupendos, how are your cigars developing? Have you been smoking regularly? Just want to see if mine are par for the course. Wilkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Wilkey, an '06 box showed flashes, but also had construction issues and never really came around. This past November I smoked one from an '07 box. It was as the others I've smoked from this box so far - not bad, but I find myself waiting for something more, and it hasn't happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac77 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Have almost a full box still. Smoked a few. all were plugged solid. Might revisit and do Rob's fridge trick on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramon_cojones Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Have heard nothing but bad things about this cigar and to add insult to injury they are not exactly cheap. Somewhat relieved I did not go in on a box though I love ra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 My '07 cab has been nothing to shout about. The construction is ok, if a little on the tight side. Flavor is lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuralpath Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I have a few '07 boxes. They are inconsistent, but when they're good, they're often wonderful-- that delicious sweet/sour RA flavor. That being said, I agree that too many are too tight or just plain plugged, so they can be an expensive gamble if purchased untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginseng Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Yep. It certainly seems like mine are par for the course. Nearly every stick has been unpleasantly tight with a few essentially plugged. This from across three cabs. Flavor has been...wanting. The majority have been strong, raw, and dense. But not in a hopeful way as with young RyJ Cazadores. A few have just been so nasty to have been pitchable. And as you say, Neuralpath, rarely, when you get a good one, it shows you what you should be getting but are not. At least not at the hit rate that makes these worthwhile. Thanks for the comments, gents. I suppose there's really nothing to do but let them sleep. Oh, dry boxing works reasonably well in opening these things up. Have not tried the freezer trick. Wilkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Have to agree with the consensus. Got lucky on a really good '07 today but half the cab is tight and most I've smoked had little to no depth of flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I would have to agree with everyone here after smoking a few. Expensive and I've had probably one good one so far. Funny thing is that I've had the same problem with the JL No. 4 Asian RE as well. Not a plug issue with them but crappy construction and flavorless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingerburner Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I've only smoked about 4 or 5 from my '07 box. Wouldn't buy if I had my time again. High maintenance (none plugged, but a hard working draw on all) with dull flavours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 For those who tried them in the early days, were the flavours more pronounced? I have had some gems. Construction seems to be a common problem. The Punch Super Robusto (same period PCC release) is running rings around the Estupendos currently in terms of development/flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacostiakat Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Seems I have had better luck than most with mine. Havent tried one in quite a while but the ones I have were very good. I also have both '06 & '07. Have not smoked a lot of them but if memory doesnt fail have only had one that was slightly tight. Might be time to revisit. Not having had one in some time I can not answer your question. I'll try to dig one out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac77 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Tried another one of these a few days ago in the hope that my luck may have changed... wishful thinking as this one was almost unsmokable. Harsh and a tight draw. Tossed it after 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginseng Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 What a coincidence. Tried another this weekend. Still tight even though at 60-62%. Some flavors but rather muddled and uninteresting. I'd say overall a disappointment. They sure haven't gained anything in all this time and I'm feeling like they've lost some of that initial magic. In contrast, I cracked a 2011 RyJ Cazadores and what a fine cigar. Strong, rich, lively. A satisfying cigar indeed. Wilkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxman Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Have had no luck with the 07's I have smoked. Not much taste and construction seems to be an issue. They are still around so that tells you something. The 06's however I have had some very tasty ones, yes a few plugs but overall they have been good. Just picked up another 06 box at auction and will try it this weekend and see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I said what the heck and had one today on my morning drive. Decent but more of the same - semi tight with no flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZinZan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I tried it last year at a cigar gig and I thought it was terrible. I only bought a sampler so let me know when it's the right time to have a go at it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The few I've smoked from my 07 box have been smokable, despite some slight constructions issues. In the flavor department, they are fairly flat and leave me wanting more. I couldn't agree more with Rob's comments about the Punch Super Robustos; they are really good cigars and will only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersonmorelli Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Upon release and a couple of years ago I remember people praising them for reasons I never understood, considering that from the 10 samples I bought, 8 were plugged and unsmokable and 2 were very tight that I couldn't finish the cigar. On the other hand, the Punch Super Robustos that were released in the same year were great until last year when I smoked the last one I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacostiakat Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Dug out an '06. Have maybe half left. Paired it up with a tot of rum. Cut it and took a pre-light draw. Ummm, seemed pretty tight. Pretty well packed.A Fired it up! Draws fine. A little tight to my liking but nothing bad. Oh my, I don't find this has backed off much if at all. Some tingling on the lips. Bit spi-say! Great companion to a good rum after a hard day pretending to work. As it warms up the tightness disappears. Very earthy cigar. Smooths out after first inch or so. I am sorry to hear what sounds like most folks are not having a good experience with these. I also hope mine continues as is. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Dug out an '06. Have maybe half left. Paired it up with a tot of rum. Cut it and took a pre-light draw. Ummm, seemed pretty tight. Pretty well packed.A Fired it up! Draws fine. A little tight to my liking but nothing bad. Oh my, I don't find this has backed off much if at all. Some tingling on the lips. Bit spi-say! Great companion to a good rum after a hard day pretending to work. As it warms up the tightness disappears. Very earthy cigar. Smooths out after first inch or so. I am sorry to hear what sounds like most folks are not having a good experience with these. I also hope mine continues as is. . . Seems the trend is still trending. Over the years I've heard from many and experienced that the '06 is a better example than the '07 Shame my cab's the latter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 My POS 06's have been great.... When they draw! A very elegant and tasty cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacostiakat Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Funny. I thought it was the '07 box that was open but it was the '06. Trepidation on opening the '07s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Give one a shot and let us know what you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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