Newkarian Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 So I am wanting your opinion on what the best box for long term aging would be. The catch is I would like something from nov 2010 or 2010 at the least. Wanting to find a nice box from my sons birth month to age until we can enjoy them together. So this would be 18+ years of age more than likely before smoking. Let the debate begin what would you go with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 RyJ Cazadores are long lasting. Problem is a lot of those 2010s were ready to go when released so who knows how they'll be in 18 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Cohiba esplendidos or upmann sir Winston Get a great box and let time do its magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmancbr Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Cohiba esplendidos or upmann sir Winston Get a great box and let time do its magic Another Vote for the Sir Winnie. I've had some 1980s Upmanns that were truly magical. I've also had some killer Punch from the 80s as well but most punch today aren't as fancy as a Sir Winnie and since its a special occasion I'd go for the gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkarian Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 The sir winston sounds good. Now on the hunt for a box. The hard part will be not touching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangolf18 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Get a box of psp quality Monte 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bolivar Corona Gigante Partagas Lusitania MC Especial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkarian Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Monte 2 was my first cc and is a great one. Do you think it would stand up to the extended aging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactochris Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Another vote for the Sir Winston's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john007 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Sir winston's here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Monte 2 was my first cc and is a great one. Do you think it would stand up to the extended aging? Monte 2 is a lottery. But you rarely hear about a mediocre box of Sir Winston… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Festa Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 For 18 years? I would go with a fuller strength cigar and lean towards Partagas. Ramon Allones and Saint Luis Rey also. And if they are to enjoy with your son, maybe a corona at the biggest. Imagine someone handing you a Sir Winnie for your first cigar! Bit intimidating! Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebrew Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I would agree on the Sir Winstons. Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkarian Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ok if anyone has a box of sir upmann from 2010 or anything else interesting and HQ shoot me a pm. If the boy doesnt like cigars at least I will have vintage sticks to smoke one day lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontrealRon Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 All cigars packed in varnished boxes are blended for long term aging. If you can find 2010 Sir Winstons, they are surely your best bet. Meanwhile, at a more modest price, consider the PL Encantos. They are Dalias, in a 8-9-8 varnished box. The entire production is dated Nov. 2010, and El Pres has them in stock. The general opinion is that they are first rate smokes. All PL cigars age well, and the Encantos will surely have a 20+ year life span. I would even suggest buying two boxes; one to leave untouched and unopened, and one to smoke, very slowly, like every 6-10 months, to follow their evolution. Keep in mind that the one you are smoking from will evolve more quickly over the years than the sealed box, due to exposure to more oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkarian Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thank you Ron that is the kind of advice I am looking for. An inside to what is quality and will be good in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfall Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I've had great success with : HU Sir Winston Partagas Lusi & 898 HDM EE Monte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsMichael Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 IMO you cant go wrong with cohiba espys, cohiba siglo 6s, upmann sir winstons, partagas lusi, partagas 898, and la escepcions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 HdM Le Hoyo range all benefit from a nice long sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkarian Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Ive decided to go with the PL Encantos as they are from the month/year I want and look to be developing into a nice smoke. Also the fact that they are on the milder side and have a sweetness from reviews, would be nice for a young palate. If anyone has a stuck or two they would be willing to let go of so I can sample before making the plunge send me a pm. Thanks for all the recommendations and knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbone Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I can not start to guess how tobacco rolled today, will turn out in 18 years. A cigar smoked today with 18 year old tobacco in it will not age the same as a cigar rolled today... in 18 years. I personally do not buy into the advice of buying a strong or full bodied cigar for aging. If you look at aged cigar auctions or merchants who sell aged cigars, hardly are the full bodied pulling the most coin. Quality of tobacco, would be my determining factor. You'd have to take into consideration year of the crop, factory, were did the excellent tobacco go i.e. which brands lucked out and got the good leaf, etc... Or just ask Rob and case closed =) BTW - I am in agreement with you on the PL Enchantos. I'm into my second box and finding it REALLY difficult to leave them alone to age. I have one more in the locker, that's the only way I'm going to see how it develops but it is a real masterpiece of a cigar today. PM incoming, Newkarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevzy Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I just got a box yesterday of Por Larranaga Encantos from Nov 2010 and they smell divine. I had a single of one of those I got out of the Christmas sampler and it was like honey on toast. Plan to hold onto these for a long time and see how they turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdo2110 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I asked a very affluent collector this same question one time. This guy has EVERYTHING you can think of, and from a variety of years and past decades. I explained to him that I'm a blue collar kind of guy, and didn't have tons of cash to Just toss around. He said that for him the answer is the same whether you have a lot of money or little... Monte 2. Of all the cigars he has smoked, the one he feels confident in through long aging is that one. He says that his aged stock of Monte 2s rival a lot of his "collectable" stuff. Just thought I'd share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk05 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Sounds like he has a lot of old Monte #2's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdo2110 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Sounds like he has a lot of old Monte #2's. That's what he implied. He said his collection of Cubans is +5000. I chatted with other BOTL about him and they are like, yeah, he's the Man! I'm being evasive about his identity because I'm not sure it'd be appropriate to name drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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