the martini


Ken Gargett

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curious to know what people think. how do you make? preferences?

how dry (i remember at uni, when we were complete tossers, we would put a bottle of vermouth near the martini so as the shadow would cross the glass therefore making a seriously dry martini - which we thought was terribly cool but in fact, compelling evidence of what tossers we were as it left us with a glass of gin).

first rule of martini thread - vodka is all well and fine in its place but that place is not in a martini. that is simply a vodka drink. please do NOT ever refer to a martini as a gin martini - that is like saying french champagne.

i was curious about all this as found a jeb bartlett/west wing quote. and i would point out that in one of the bond books (don't ask me which one), he gets it right asking for stirred, not shaken.

Can I tell you what’s messed up about James Bond…Shaken, not stirred, will get you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth. The reason you stir it with a special spoon is so not to chip the ice. James is ordering a weak martini and being snooty about it.

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One for the "vodka drink", extra olives please. Nothing against the Gin Martini I simply do not like gin in any capacity.

no no no - no problem with a vote for the vodka drink but you cannot call it a gin martini. like them or not, it is simply a martini!!!

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Paging Francisco!

I personally have been trying a few Difford's variations and subbing in some different Four Pillars with Noilly Prat.

Because I can.

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if you are incredibly good, i will let you have the recipe for a brookfield negroni - even the four pillars guys were impressed.

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that is the gin to be used.

did you get to try their bloody shiraz gin? amazing stuff. perhaps not classical gin but...

i think i opened some for rob on one of the videos. unfortunately, i think they only made 150 litres. so not a big seller.

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that is the gin to be used.

did you get to try their bloody shiraz gin? amazing stuff. perhaps not classical gin but...

i think i opened some for rob on one of the videos. unfortunately, i think they only made 150 litres. so not a big seller.

I haven't. But I got this one sent recently....

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PM me this Brookfield Negroni please. Negroni is my favourite drink!

Will try one this evening!

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curious to know what people think. how do you make? preferences?

how dry (i remember at uni, when we were complete tossers, we would put a bottle of vermouth near the martini so as the shadow would cross the glass therefore making a seriously dry martini - which we thought was terribly cool but in fact, compelling evidence of what tossers we were as it left us with a glass of gin).

first rule of martini thread - vodka is all well and fine in its place but that place is not in a martini. that is simply a vodka drink. please do NOT ever refer to a martini as a gin martini - that is like saying french champagne.

i was curious about all this as found a jeb bartlett/west wing quote. and i would point out that in one of the bond books (don't ask me which one), he gets it right asking for stirred, not shaken.

Can I tell you what’s messed up about James Bond…Shaken, not stirred, will get you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth. The reason you stir it with a special spoon is so not to chip the ice. James is ordering a weak martini and being snooty about it.

Am I the only one who understands the hard life of the international man-of-mystery-gun-toting-license-to-kill-spy sort?? thinking.gif Of course you want it shaken not stirred before waltzing into mortal combat . . . have to keep one's wits about one after all. The man can't very well order a Perrier now can he? He's got to order something, and from a literary perspective 'shaken' sounds so much tougher, while still leaving one with a clear head.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got to go pick up the Aston Martin from its annual service . . . that glitchy oil thingy in the back's been on the fritz lately . . . :P

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Am I the only one who understands the hard life of the international man-of-mystery-gun-toting-license-to-kill-spy sort?? thinking.gif Of course you want it shaken not stirred before waltzing into mortal combat . . . have to keep one's wits about one after all. The man can't very well order a Perrier now can he? He's got to order something, and from a literary perspective 'shaken' sounds so much tougher, while still leaving one with a clear head.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got to go pick up the Aston Martin from its annual service . . . that glitchy oil thingy in the back's been on the fritz lately . . . tongue.png

would that be this aston martin?

they set it up for a bond/bollinger dinner.

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Can't stand gin. Drank 18 oz of London Dry out of a water bottle during a float building when at High Scool (out of the watchful eyes of the adults). Nearly got run over (by a car, not the float - never helped too much on that) but certainly left my, err, "mark" at the site (woods) and numerous other places. Stayed home "sick" from school the next day.

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A martini should never have vodka anywhere near it. I personally like mine quiet dry with a 5:1 ratio of gin to vermouth. I find Plymouth navy strength, Monkey 47 or Hendricks are my current favourites. And a good martini should be stirred and not shaken!

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A martini should never have vodka anywhere near it. I personally like mine quiet dry with a 5:1 ratio of gin to vermouth. I find Plymouth navy strength, Monkey 47 or Hendricks are my current favourites. And a good martini should be stirred and not shaken!

now we are getting somewhere!

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The worst thing I hace heard of is the 'vesper' from Casino Royale. Adding vodka to a perfectly good martini would only spoil the taste and increase the alcohol content, you may as well just drink vodka or window cleaner.

In a similar vein to a martini i also enjoy a Gimlet, but the choice of gin has to be right.

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A martini should never have vodka anywhere near it. I personally like mine quiet dry with a 5:1 ratio of gin to vermouth. I find Plymouth navy strength, Monkey 47 or Hendricks are my current favourites. And a good martini should be stirred and not shaken!

6 parts gin.

1 part vermouth.

Stir over ice.

Garnish with lemon peel.

Simple. Elegant. Classic.

Currently, I favour Dolin, and Silent Pool Gin, a recent local discovery.

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I'm very traditional with my martinis too. I favour 1:4, 1:5 or 1:6. The one thing I can't understand is the modern method of coating ice with vermouth and then chucking out the ice. This makes no sense to me, without vermouth it's just not a martini.

I make mine with Noilly Prat, a few dashes of orange bitters and stir, then garnish with a lemon peel after squeezing some drops of oil from the peel into the drink.

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I like mine dirty, very dirty. I usually add 2-3 olives AND extra juice. Twist of lemon.

Stirred, never shaken.

5 parts of Old Raj (in the winter) or Botanist or Hendriks in the summer

1 part of Dolin

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I completely agree about never saying a gin martini. At the same time, after ordering a martini I have been asked several times if I wanted gin or vodka. What are you going to do?

I've tried a lot of different gins over the years and then heard that Beefeater had scored very well in double blind competitions. That was about 4-5 years ago. Up to that point I looked down on it as a lower shelf brand. Bought a bottle and now I can't remember the last martini I've made that didn't have Beefeater. Fantastic gin and an incredible value.

Vermouth? I'm on my second bottle of Dolin but think I will switch back to Noilly Prat. Probably on a 1:6 ratio.

And I do like a Vesper...the Lilet is what makes it.

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I completely agree about never saying a gin martini. At the same time, after ordering a martini I have been asked several times if I wanted gin or vodka. What are you going to do?

what you should do is say i want a martini and someone who knows what they are doing to make it.

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