Smallclub Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Benzopyrene said: Is this the first 25 ct box deletion of cohibas? Sig 5 man...... It's the display of 5 petacas de 5 that's discontinued, not the box of 25… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zeedubbya Posted January 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, GrouchoMarx said: Ok ... guess I'm slower than most... What are they deleting? Is it just that type of packaging? Is is the whole vitola? What? Allow me to interpret, seems to be some confusion. Boli Tubos 1--Gone Boli Corona Gigantes--Gone CCE--5 by 5 Cardboard Packs Gone Siglo 5-- 5 by 5 Cardboard Packs Gone HUPC-Gone HDM Du Prince--Gone JLP Cremas--Gone JLP Petit Cetros--Gone Monte 1--10 boxes gone Monte 3--10 boxes gone Monte Pet 2--Cardboard 15 packs gone Monte Tubos--C. Pack of 15 Tubos gone Monte Pet Tubos--Cboard 10 Tubos gone Part Cor Sen.---Cboard 15 Tubos gone Punch DC--50 Cabs Gone Punch Punch--50 Cabs Gone Punch Royal Coron--Gone RG Perlas--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone RYJ--Cedros Deluxe 1--Gone RYJ--Los Tres Romeos--Gone RYJ--PC--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone RYJ--Petite Julieta--5 by 5 Cardb. Gone Trinidad Reyes-5 by 5 Cardboard Gone Trinidad Colonial--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone VR Don Alejandro--Gone A bit crazy but not unexpected. As @Ethernut and I discussed a couple weeks ago--we are in the cigar smoking minority. It's the Bud Light phenomenon. Best selling beer in the USA--does that mean everyone likes it or it's good beer. No. Does that mean An. Busch is going to make more of it and make it the focus of their attention. Yes. Same thing at work here. Focus on what sells the most worldwide. Marketing 101. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foursite12 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Thanks, Zane. That really helps and the Bud Light analogy is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzArd Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, zeedubbya said: Allow me to interpret, seems to be some confusion. Boli Tubos 1--Gone Boli Corona Gigantes--Gone CCE--5 by 5 Cardboard Packs Gone Siglo 5-- 5 by 5 Cardboard Packs Gone HUPC-Gone HDM Du Prince--Gone JLP Cremas--Gone JLP Petit Cetros--Gone Monte 1--10 boxes gone Monte 3--10 boxes gone Monte Pet 2--Cardboard 15 packs gone Monte Tubos--C. Pack of 15 Tubos gone Monte Pet Tubos--Cboard 10 Tubos gone Part Cor Sen.---Cboard 15 Tubos gone Punch DC--50 Cabs Gone Punch Punch--50 Cabs Gone Punch Royal Coron--Gone RG Perlas--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone RYJ--Cedros Deluxe 1--Gone RYJ--Los Tres Romeos--Gone RYJ--PC--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone RYJ--Petite Julieta--5 by 5 Cardb. Gone Trinidad Reyes-5 by 5 Cardboard Gone Trinidad Colonial--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone VR Don Alejandro--Gone Perfect summation. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Corylax18 Posted January 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2017 RIP du Prince. Hi Country cremation: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, zeedubbya said: Allow me to interpret, seems to be some confusion. Boli Tubos 1--Gone Boli Corona Gigantes--Gone CCE--5 by 5 Cardboard Packs Gone Siglo 5-- 5 by 5 Cardboard Packs Gone HUPC-Gone HDM Du Prince--Gone JLP Cremas--Gone JLP Petit Cetros--Gone Monte 1--10 boxes gone Monte 3--10 boxes gone Monte Pet 2--Cardboard 15 packs gone Monte Tubos--C. Pack of 15 Tubos gone Monte Pet Tubos--Cboard 10 Tubos gone Part Cor Sen.---Cboard 15 Tubos gone Punch DC--50 Cabs Gone Punch Punch--50 Cabs Gone Punch Royal Coron--Gone RG Perlas--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone RYJ--Cedros Deluxe 1--Gone RYJ--Los Tres Romeos--Gone RYJ--PC--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone RYJ--Petite Julieta--5 by 5 Cardb. Gone Trinidad Reyes-5 by 5 Cardboard Gone Trinidad Colonial--5 by 5 Cardboard Gone VR Don Alejandro--Gone A bit crazy but not unexpected. As @Ethernut and I discussed a couple weeks ago--we are in the cigar smoking minority. It's the Bud Light phenomenon. Best selling beer in the USA--does that mean everyone likes it or it's good beer. No. Does that mean An. Busch is going to make more of it and make it the focus of their attention. Yes. Same thing at work here. Focus on what sells the most worldwide. Marketing 101. Thanks for clearing that up - I see that in some cases its the last of a vitola. Some of which I've never even tried. As for bud light - well - ick comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageshi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Well, I just bought a box of du prince, I'll be buying a box of HUP PC (I cannot believe this one...) next month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted January 18, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Smallclub said: In France it's hard to find it outside major cities. It gets terrible reviews year after year in the french "cigar press" (reduced today to one magazine). I have yet to meet a cigar lover who keeps it in his rotation… I had no idea as a lover of the Du Prince ( since 1996)....that I was running against the tide of the esteemed French "cigar press" Mon Dieu ! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godpheonix Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 how the hell does HSA cut a cigar like Bolivar Corona Gigantes and keep 5 or 6 regular production Cuaba's in play? i see no deletion for Cuaba in there at all and that amazes me more than the concrete evidence of Gravitional waves which revealed that Black holes were in fact real consequentially! i'm stunned!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, El Presidente said: I had no idea as a lover of the Du Prince ( since 1996)....that I was running against the tide of the esteemed French "cigar press" Rob I doubt that you have ever become a fan of this cigar if you were only offered the quality that is found in France - and this true for the rest of the Hoyo du X series. In the mid 2000's, two tobacconists in Paris told me they stopped ordering them from Coprova, as the quality was really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PigFish Posted January 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2017 More problems associated with a monopoly, a monopoly mindset and the understanding that brands are nothing but a band and a box. Tabacuba used to represent brands as best they could, I do believe that they have given up on them. There will be brand fights over those not owned by an HSA partner in the US someday. I hope they lose them all. And this is good precedent. They are not representing the brands that they stole, they are abandoning them, and the classic cigars that made the brands great brands. Yes, it is another handful of smaller cigars. I think it was @Brandon that put it back on the smoker, and I agree with him somewhat. As long as you are happy with the cigar as a luxury image, one $30 cigar a week, instead of one $3 cigar a day... that is what you will get!!! Perhaps 2017 will be the last year I buy Habanos. I will quit cigar smoking before I become one of the Beanie Baby generation smokers. No double banded dildo for me on the 'green.' I have enough good cigars to last my life, I am coming to realize that and have focused the passion that I once put into Cuban cigars, now into cigar 'husbandry.' Someday some of you will wake up and see that you have been cheated out of an opportunity that many seasoned smokers have had. That opportunity was to 'mature with cigars.' I don't mean this as, grow old with one cigar, but to have your tastes develop and discover that there is a range of cigars that maybe outside the majority to become attracted to. There will only be the majority choice, and that may just be the yearly Beanie Baby cigars left to fight over. What a pitiful way to end the Cuban cigar tradition, chasing the ex-pat companies as they have more marketing savvy, can pay their bills and their farmers, and have taken Cuban pride in cigar making with them, largely. Startups, people with no cigar experience seem to have better management than Tabacuba... This is what happens when those brought up through a system to hate private enterprise, are turned to CEOs because they have 'party' tenure and pretend to run a company... Tabacuba has no vision, it is as dead as the political system that owns it. Dear Tabacuba, You are lost in a global marketplace and you deserve to die at the hand of creative destruction. Hopefully a competent group can take your place, if not, I could care less! Your rotten socio-economic system creates and fosters failures and black markets. That is all that you will ever succeed at, failure. You seem to plant less and less tobacco. You have problems every year, one excuse after another. You cannot manage to roll a different size and make a box for it and release it on time. You represent failure! That is the new Cuban tobacco tradition. FU Tabacuba. Your friend, Piggy! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wade1979 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 HUPC is a real head scratcher. Would have thought this was a strong global seller based on price point and value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Is it April? Someone tell me it's April, I enjoy a good April Fools as much as anybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackupster Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 How timely! I just got these in the mail yesterday. Guess I will take my time disposing them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckymtn22 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Here is a concept HSA, if you are not selling many Julieta No.2's (BCG) maybe they are too long and need to be reduced in length as not many people have 2+ hours to relax. I would love the same profile and size but in a shorter length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGC Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 HUPC is a real head scratcher. Would have thought this was a strong global seller based on price point and value. It really makes no difference if the cigar currently sells... when the resources can go towards a petit robusto at twice the price (which many smokers happily stand in line for) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave001 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 noo say it aint so to the HUPC!!! one of my favorite sticks guess I will have to be adding a bunch more boxes (another wineador purchase to stock that one cigar!!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I mean what do you replace the hupc with? The 2015 releases still haven't hit the shelves! If they were going to trim why not remove the tubed corona minor/major and keep the higher quality stick? It's just baffling, and when you bring in the issues Cuba has with making/releasing cigars it just blows your mind. I had thought enough people had banged some sense into HSA that they had put the deletion programme on pause. They don't actually deserve the custom do they? Never mind the hardwork people around the world like Rob and crew, blog writers, fans who make up the shortfall of passion that HSA don't give out 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 hours ago, schubb said: I joined this site and started smoking CCs a little over two years ago, so I'm relatively new to this compared to many members here. This is the first deletion list that has hit me hard. The BCG, the HUPC, and the du Prince are all currently in my rotation as they have been fantastic. I was looking forward to seeing how these developed over the next few years and picking up more boxes once mine ran low. I was even thinking yesterday that my next box should be the Bolivar #1 tubos. This sucks I don't even know if I want to stock up now, or just try to find another cigar I like (that will eventually be discontinued) Yes that sucks indeed and good taste you have. Most unfortunate. BTW - what else do you like? I want to know so that I know what to stock up on before it's discontinued next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 edit - double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I am truly baffled by the H Upmann PC. I have 5 boxes in inventory. Wish I had 20 more, my favorite Mareva out of all of 'em. This is the dumbest decision by far, shaking my head! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kostashabanos Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 the only serious deletion is boli cg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVOSREVENGE Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Love H. Upmann but I'd give up the the new Mag 54, which I have not tried yet, to keep the HUPC. Doesn't H. Upmann have enough 50+ RG selections already??????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, BEVOSREVENGE said: Love H. Upmann but I'd trade the new Mag 54, which I have not tired yet, for the HUPC all day loooooong. Doesn't H. Upmann have enough 50+ RG selections already??????? Well we all have our own opinions. 54 ring cigars do nothing for me. Robustos at 50 are more than plenty big enough. 42 rings are my sweet spot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topdiesel Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Sorry for all the HUPC lovers out there (seems to be the most dis contention on this thread). I am deeply saddened that there will no longer be a Churchill or Corona in the Bolivar lineup. As a super fanboy of the Bolivar Tubos lineup, it is a crushing blow and I will continue to stock up on 2 & 3 as the writing is on the wall. I guess they make more money whoring out the bolivar name out to all the regionals. I just picked up a box of Du Prince's and a 50 Cab of Punch DC. Two more nails in the 50 cab coffin and cause for concern to the Punch fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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