itstricky Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 So you all have been so great with me and my noob posts over the past couple months. Anyway. I'll repost two pics of what I bought myself back in December from a different vendor, with no further mention of said vendor...I received my first ever box of cigars...until this point I was buying single sticks on vacation and bringing them home with me. This has been going on for about 5 years or so...and maybe I am the luckiest guy for not having experienced until yesterday what I experienced, or maybe I am the unluckiest guy - for my first cigar, out of the first box of cigars I ever ever bought, was what I am describing now as unsmokable. The DRAW. Period. So after crying to all of you about my humidity after said purchase of this box of Partagas Serie P no. 2 - I got my desktop to a happy 72%...but then let it drop slowly to a more happy 67% in recent weeks. The whole box sat untouched in said humidor since early January. Didn't touch one. So saving my first smoke for a special occasion, that occasion was yesterday, Easter. Took one out, went out to a nice dinner in NYC...walked into central park with the wife...cut, toasted, and lit...then the draw...very very tough. Hard to draw air through. I am sure I am not describing this right...but anyway, I thought at first I may not have cut enough off the head. So I cut a bit more off...did not improve the draw. After 15 minutes of trying without success to draw any smoke through the head, I gave up, and pitched my ~$10 cigar. I was really upset. And still am. What happened? It felt very hard just above the label...but looser towards the foot. Cigar looks legit. I have no earthly idea what or how to explain the tight tight draw, so much so that it was just not smokable. I am sad, and looking for advice and maybe an explanation...I thought I did everything right. Thank you all. And I truly appreciate everyone's feedback. I was so sad that my wife became sad for me and it sort of put a damper on such a nice day. She knows how hard I worked on keeping my humidor happy and how much I was looking forward to my first smoke from my first box of my very own cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cep Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 it's pretty common with cuban cigars unfortunately. Just grab another and try it. I have a boc of 2010 D4's that have a very tight draw. its annoying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itstricky Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Just now, Cep said: it's pretty common with cuban cigars unfortunately. Just grab another and try it. I have a boc of 2010 D4's that have a very tight draw. its annoying. Thank you for the reassurance. Is there a way for me to "feel" for a cigar in my bunch that might have such a tight draw...and is there anything to be said for the "poker" type tools some folks speak of to loosen the tobacco from the head by inserting a tiny rod through? thx for replying Cep!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baldy Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2017 This happens with NC and CC from time to time. I wouldn't say it's "common" to Cubans. Maybe from 1999-2001 years it was common but not recent production. It's a handmade product and construction issues will happen from time to time. If this is the saddest issue you have in life you are living an enlightened life indeed. Typically plugged cigars occurs around the band area. I've used a stick to poke it most times, even used a cordless drill with a long ass drill bit a few times which helps. Once or twice I've destroyed an unsmokable cigar so no biggie. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Habana Mike Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2017 One suggestion to reduce disappointment is to cut and test the draw before you head out. That way you know you're carrying a smokeable cigar and will avoid runing the moment, Another, your humidity still sounds high. Try 64 for a while and see how they act. Won't guarantee no plugs but can help reduce tightness. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HarveyBoulevard Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2017 I smoke my cigars @ 62-63rh and check out the thread on the 'PerfecDraw'. I don't have many tough draws and when I do...they don't last long with the PerfecDraw. Sorry to hear about your P2. I love those things. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nekhyludov Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 What I got from your story is that you celebrated a special day with your wife, who loves you enough to be sad when you're disappointed in a cigar, had a nice dinner, and a walk in the park. Sounds like a pretty great day to me If the worst thing any of us experiences in a given day is that our cigar is plugged, I would call that cause for great gratitude. I'm sure the rest of the box will be great! An occasional dud just heightens the enjoyment of the good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itstricky Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Nekhyludov said: What I got from your story is that you celebrated a special day with your wife, who loves you enough to be sad when you're disappointed in a cigar, had a nice dinner, and a walk in the park. Sounds like a pretty great day to me If the worst thing any of us experiences in a given day is that our cigar is plugged, I would call that cause for great gratitude. I'm sure the rest of the box will be great! An occasional dud just heightens the enjoyment of the good ones. Gratitude is the best attitude!! Thank you sir for reminding me of just that! Well said. You win the internet today! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahDooRow Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 itstricky: With hand made products such as cigars a tight draw is bound to happen every once in a while. It's disappointing, but unavoidable. Cep's advice is right on point. Grab another stick and try it. Habana Mike's advice to cut and test the draw before you leave home will also save you potential disappointment going forward. As HarveyBoulevard stated, lowering your rH to ~62% should help (this is where I like to keep my rH level). A PerfecDraw cigar tool can also come in handy when you find yourself confronted with a plugged stick or a tight draw. Try not to be too hard on yourself. You can always count on the FoH forum to chime in with good advice, helpful suggestions and moral support when you need it. Keep soldering on and things will work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itstricky Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 With renewed faith in the quality of life and of my cigars, I will forge ahead with another stick this weekend, and report my findings, taking heed of all the above, thank you all...yet again. Keep Calm and Smoke On. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrretrohale Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Plugs, weird burn, bad flavour all will happen over time. Keep puffing and you'd be rewarded with better smokes! Chin up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLC Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 One suggestion to reduce disappointment is to cut and test the draw before you head out. That way you know you're carrying a smokeable cigar and will avoid runing the Good advice, also think about taking more than one with you even though you only plan to smoke one. Always good to have a backup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave001 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 nothing like a beautiful day in central park smoking a cigar, sorry you had that bad experience but alas it happens hopefully the next p2 will more than make up for it and sometimes with the pyramids might have to cut a little further down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird55 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I keep a stainless steel shish kabob skewer, in my humidor drawer. On the rare occasions that i find a plugged or tight draw, on a cigar, I use it, works very well for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stogieluver Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2017 IMHO, you're storage conditions are still way too high. Bring it down to 60%-62%. It will take several weeks to remove the excess moisture. When leaving the house with sticks to smoke that evening, I always cut them & test the draw, then place them in a freezer bag so as to try to prevent them from absorbing a potentially high ambient rH until I smoke them. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itstricky Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 and the fantastic tips just keep rollin in, thank you all again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick-seattle Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 +1 on checking before leaving. Had a few experiences like yours, now always grab cigars, cut them and check the draw, sometimes use drill bit to help a bit, but if doesn't, in it goes for a very long storage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cigaraholic Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2017 I was in the wine business, we always brought extra wine in case something was corked. I do the same with cigars, always bring extras in case there's a problem......or I run into another cigar smoker. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hoze Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I actually find myself more disappointed more frequently by the opposite problem: not enough resistance on the draw. I have used everything from a wooden BBQ skewer to a wire coat hanger over the years to remedy a tight draw w success. But a wind tunnel is bound to leave me feeling short changed with little I can do. Great solution to test it. However, I have had issues of cutting the cigar ahead of time and damaging the head as I carry it around. So I actually now make habit of always bringing two cigars with me - and ones I trust the consistency of construction. That way I have a back-up, a cigar to give away if someone wants one, or another cigar to smoke! My trick is only buying handbags for my fiancee big enough to hold my supplies!!! She actually bought me this fancy 2-cigar holder as she deemed my leftover aluminum tubes a little too low brow (which begs the question how on Earth she didn't deem me too low brow!) I initially balked but actually do prefer this thing as I smoke alot of Cohiba Lanceros and I can fit one in there even with the box and the thing is super air tight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikB Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 It's the only thing about CC's thatcan make me angry .... buying the creme de la creme of cigars and finding you can't smoke them... if I buy a Rolls Royce I want the motor to start ! Still , I keep at it because the good ones make it alrightVerzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zeedubbya Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2017 PM me your address. I'll send some "Cheer you ups" your way stored at 60% RH and you can decide for yourself. --Z 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Before you smoke chuck the cigar in the freezer for 15 min, it should open up and tight draws. Remember hygrometers have margins of error that are 3-5% unless you've paid triple digit money for it. You don't know really what the Rh is. You will get to know how your cigars are by feel eventually; by weight in the hand but also by how much of a crackle the wrapper gives when gently rolled between finger and thumb. Until then, freezer trick is as good as any 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Just a heads up that Central Park is smoke free and the twitchy crazed locals would love to tattle on you. Right outside though, there are tons and tons of benches along Central Park West from the 60s all the way up. These are my go-to smoking seats. Enjoyed an Epi No 2 here yesterday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awkwardPause Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Try dry-boxing those bad boys for a day prior to smoking. May not alleviate a true "plugging" issue, but it may help the overall situation. I dry box all of my cigars now about a day prior to smoking and have noticed a world of difference with flavor, draw, smoke production, etc. Maybe just me but I know there are plenty of others here that will agree with this approach, especially for younger stock. Again, doubtful it will correct a super tight draw but might not hurt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I moved from NC to CC and found a much lower RH level to be ideal. I aim for 60-65% and then typically dry box for at least a day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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