OZCUBAN Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 If only CPI increased twice a year for wages, haven't had a real pay rise in a decade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Australia may have averted negative growth in 2008 with the impact worldwide of the subprime mortgage crisis (yes, thanks to our dear friends in Western Australia who have propped up our country on the back of a long resource boom), but sustained growth can't last forever. At some point we'll have to go backwards. Will taxes fall in line with falling CPI at the time? Hmmm...I wonder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gweilgi Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, JohnS said: Australia may have averted negative growth in 2008 with the impact worldwide of the subprime mortgage crisis (yes, thanks to our dear friends in Western Australia who have propped up our country on the back of a long resource boom), but sustained growth can't last forever. At some point we'll have to go backwards. Will taxes fall in line with falling CPI at the time? Hmmm...I wonder! That was a rhetorical "wondering", wasn't it? When do taxes ever really go down? Most of the time, they spruik some piddly little cut in one place and carefully avoid alerting you to the hike somewhere else. Case in point: the 2% budget repair levy is going, woo hoo ... but wait, Medicare levy is going up by 0.5%! So you save $400 at one end but are paying $1,000 more somewhere else. Politics ... from the Greek "poly" for "many" and "tics" for "blood-sucking insects". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gweilgi Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 14 hours ago, Leopolis Semper Fidelis said: Nanny state in New Zealand wants to make that country "smoke-free" by 2025, so the tobacco taxes keep going up and up and up. It appears most cigar imports entering through the mail system there (even as few as three cigars) are hit savagely with tax, inspection duty, agricultural products duty and anything else they can think of levying - with GST added to the mix. Of course it is done in the name of protecting the populace and having their good health at heart. Well, if they ever did their sums, what they must really want is for us to quit smoking, quit drinking, quit fatty foods, quit sugar. They want us healthy and fit for our entire lives ... and then they must want us to drop dead at 67 because the longer we live, the bigger the burden on the pensions and healthcare budgets. Cancer may be nasty and horrible and a tragedy on the personal level, but in pure terms of cost, nothing beats old age care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 hours ago, gweilgi said: Well, if they ever did their sums, what they must really want is for us to quit smoking, quit drinking, quit fatty foods, quit sugar. They want us healthy and fit for our entire lives ... and then they must want us to drop dead at 67 because the longer we live, the bigger the burden on the pensions and healthcare budgets. Cancer may be nasty and horrible and a tragedy on the personal level, but in pure terms of cost, nothing beats old age care. No, no, no. That's not the plan. They want us to live long and healthy lives so they can increase the retirement age, and then when we retire, we have to go into retirement homes because we're too old to live on our own. Then to combat the ever increasing price on groceries, they introduce a brand new product... Soylent Green! Interesting enough, the Soylent Green factories are right next to the retirement homes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 21 hours ago, Fuzz said: Correction, John. CPI increases for tobacco occurs twice a year; now March & September each year, previously in Feb & August. The 12.5% increase in September is an additional gift bestowed upon us by the Govt. Secondhand car or insurance salesmen? The creepy old DJ who has been working in the same strip club for the last 30 years? Nice try Fuzz, but these are mere neophytes of the sleazy...Ummm, what I meant to say, is...I wouldn't know anything about DJ's in strip clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 19 hours ago, gweilgi said: Telemarketers selling to Alzheimer's sufferers? Cult leaders? Hmm, not bad, but I'm still leaning politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 That's it! I've had enough! I'm going to buy a big property out in the country somewhere and start growing my own tobacco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Luca said: That's it! I've had enough! I'm going to buy a big property out in the country somewhere and start growing my own tobacco! You will be in less trouble if you sell ice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Auspaul said: You will be in less trouble if you sell ice It's funny because it's so true!!! Haha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 36 minutes ago, Auspaul said: You will be in less trouble if you sell ice 35 minutes ago, Luca said: It's funny because it's so true!!! Haha!! Yep, ice is more affordable nowadays. Only $10 for 3 bags! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gweilgi Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Luca said: That's it! I've had enough! I'm going to buy a big property out in the country somewhere and start growing my own tobacco! But then you need curing sheds and cigar rollers ... Much easier and MUCH more profitable to buy a yacht and start smuggling sticks.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, gweilgi said: But then you need curing sheds and cigar rollers ... Much easier and MUCH more profitable to buy a yacht and start smuggling sticks.... True! But I wan't to live off the grid and wear a tinfoil hat. I'll be one of those guys that don't form part of Aussie census data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokum Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On May 9, 2017 at 6:16 AM, OZCUBAN said: People who use roll-your-own tobacco or smoke cigars might feel some pain after the budget. Those products are set to be taxed more, bringing them into line with the tax rates on cigarettes. The change will be phased in over the next four years, and will contribute $360 million to the budget over the same period. After years of massive tax hikes on our cigars the pain is set to increase its the only time I wish I was American were Tobacco tax and a customs department seem to be non existent ? Your politicians must have visited Chicago. They taxed cigs so high they started losing money on people who quit buying them and started rolling their own. They started raising taxes on bulk tobacco a few years ago to make up for it . Now they found a new angle for those that said screw it and started vaping. Yep they got their claws into that now. Starting in July we are also fortunate to have a penny per ounce tax on sugary drinks. You see, all this money is to help save the children. Its a blessing to have such caring politicians who want to help the children. Its always about the children. We cant have obese children from sugary drinks. We cant have children smoking. The exceptional part is that people who are on government assistance will not have to pay the sugar tax . My favorite is the plastic grocery bag tax. I think its 10 cents per bag. Thats not for the children , thats to save the planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, smokum said: Your politicians must have visited Chicago. They taxed cigs so high they started losing money on people who quit buying them and started rolling their own. They started raising taxes on bulk tobacco a few years ago to make up for it . Now they found a new angle for those that said screw it and started vaping. Yep they got their claws into that now. Starting in July we are also fortunate to have a penny per ounce tax on sugary drinks. You see, all this money is to help save the children. Its a blessing to have such caring politicians who want to help the children. Its always about the children. We cant have obese children from sugary drinks. We cant have children smoking. The exceptional part is that people who are on government assistance will not have to pay the sugar tax . My favorite is the plastic grocery bag tax. I think its 10 cents per bag. Thats not for the children , thats to save the planet. That will be our future down here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 hours ago, smokum said: Your politicians must have visited Chicago. They taxed cigs so high they started losing money on people who quit buying them and started rolling their own. They started raising taxes on bulk tobacco a few years ago to make up for it . Now they found a new angle for those that said screw it and started vaping. Yep they got their claws into that now. Starting in July we are also fortunate to have a penny per ounce tax on sugary drinks. You see, all this money is to help save the children. Its a blessing to have such caring politicians who want to help the children. Its always about the children. We cant have obese children from sugary drinks. We cant have children smoking. The exceptional part is that people who are on government assistance will not have to pay the sugar tax . My favorite is the plastic grocery bag tax. I think its 10 cents per bag. Thats not for the children , thats to save the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopolis Semper Fidelis Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 5/10/2017 at 10:27 PM, Fuzz said: NZ uses more hash than we do! That would probably be right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 4:16 AM, OZCUBAN said: People who use roll-your-own tobacco or smoke cigars might feel some pain after the budget. Those products are set to be taxed more, bringing them into line with the tax rates on cigarettes. The change will be phased in over the next four years, and will contribute $360 million to the budget over the same period. After years of massive tax hikes on our cigars the pain is set to increase its the only time I wish I was American were Tobacco tax and a customs department seem to be non existent ? I love you for who you are mate, but I would love to have you as a neighbor. I am thinking of retiring and moving to a freer state, maybe just run my humidor business full time. I HATE GOVERNMENT, YOURS, MINE AND OURS! My state government just decided that it was okay to be a member of the Communist Party and work in state government! God help us! -the Pig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 ... I almost forgot! Long live the black market! -the Pig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZCUBAN Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 The feelings mutual Ray think of the fun we could have all hazardous to our health mind you cheers Amigo ?❤️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, OZCUBAN said: The feelings mutual Ray think of the fun we could have all hazardous to our health mind you cheers Amigo ?❤️ Yeah mate, we could burn up copious amounts of a members charcoal, roast red meats, smoke cigars, light off firecrackers and play with spray paint. Did I mention the banned by Ken word. We could recreate with those too! We could even fry French Fries in peanut oil and transfats... Oh, yeah baby...! -Ray 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brschoppe Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Your politicians must have visited Chicago. They taxed cigs so high they started losing money on people who quit buying them and started rolling their own. They started raising taxes on bulk tobacco a few years ago to make up for it . Now they found a new angle for those that said screw it and started vaping. Yep they got their claws into that now. Starting in July we are also fortunate to have a penny per ounce tax on sugary drinks. You see, all this money is to help save the children. Its a blessing to have such caring politicians who want to help the children. Its always about the children. We cant have obese children from sugary drinks. We cant have children smoking. The exceptional part is that people who are on government assistance will not have to pay the sugar tax . My favorite is the plastic grocery bag tax. I think its 10 cents per bag. Thats not for the children , thats to save the planet. You just took the words right of my mouth. We have vilified tobacco...let's keep milking it and find something else to pump for money...how about sugar?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwr0201 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On May 9, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Sean3 said: Is there anything sleazier than a politician? Clearly in the US and Oz, that would be a NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwr0201 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 It would be nice if the fokkers in government and special interests would simply stop telling everyone else what to do and how to live! And those fokkers are supposed to be our "representatives". What an unfortunate joke! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, jwr0201 said: Clearly in the US and Oz, that would be a NO! Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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