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Fantastic study and extremely interesting results. Thanks for all of the work here and to all that contributed. 

Rob, you need to offer something to or make a wager with other vendors if they can produce a sample with something other than mold... put their money where their mouth is.... 

I was a skeptic. Now I am a non-believer.  But, there's intrigue and maybe even hope that something is still out there. I stay tuned. 

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Great work Greg and Jer!

For the record I am a believer that plume exists. I just need to find the right example to test. 

That example will turn up and those crystalline structures will possibly be salt or sugar or yeast. 

We will find out! It is great that we now have the ability to test. 

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Wow that is awesome, well done mates! :clap:

I wonder if my Partagas Lonsdales was one of the two that had "potential"....I am very interested to know now that it's mold!

* Feverishly runs down to humidor to wipe off my remaining Lonsdales * :innocent:

 

Are any of these mold species of concern or toxicity if ingested by humans? Besides the Penicillin obviously:rolleyes:

 

So now the last question - did any of these fine specimens get smoked and enjoyed by the Czar crew?  I'd hate for them to go to waste!

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Just now, ChanceSchmerr said:

Wow that is awesome, well done mates! :clap:

I wonder if my Partagas Lonsdales was one of the two that had "potential"....I am very interested to know now that it's mold!

* Feverishly runs down to humidor to wipe off my remaining Lonsdales * :innocent:

 

So now the last question - did any of these fine specimens get smoked and enjoyed by the Czar crew?  I'd hate for them to go to waste!

The Party Lonsdale indeed was one with "potential" :ok:

Most people I know would have called that plume. Tight structure. Looked potentially crystalline at normal view. 

I have no idea where the cigars are now.  One for Greg to answer :D

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This is a great report!!  Now I have to borrow a decent camera to zoom in on one of my Partagas E2s.  It definitely has some crystalline shine under a bright light!!

 

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2 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

The Party Lonsdale indeed was one with "potential" :ok:

Most people I know would have called that plume. Tight structure. Looked potentially crystalline at normal view. 

I have no idea where the cigars are now.  One for Greg to answer :D

Thanks Rob. I too had always thought it was plume - it looked crystalline to me.  
At least i can say they still smoke like a dream, 15 years of age has done them well, slight aspergillus aside :thumbsup:

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I knew it :)

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All samples turned out to be mould!

So do we still value  aged cigars with 'white powder' on their surface, which now have a very high chance of being mould, any differently now?

 

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12 minutes ago, joeruby said:

All samples turned out to be mould!

So do we still value  aged cigars with 'white powder' on their surface, which now have a very high chance of being mould, any differently now?

 

10 samples is a small sample set. Mind you we had 30 to choose from. However there was an obvious double and triple up in obvious examples of mould. 

We will continue on this. 

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Fascinating. Now we know it's mould, we need to set about finding the exact cause.

High moisture content or rollers' dirty hands? 🤢

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6 minutes ago, ayepatz said:

Fascinating. Now we know it's mould, we need to set about finding the exact cause.

High moisture content or rollers' dirty hands? 🤢

I was intrigued reading about the different type of fungi. 

Moisture, salt and or sugar (glucose) is required for most of these. 

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1 hour ago, ayepatz said:

Fascinating. Now we know it's mould, we need to set about finding the exact cause.

High moisture content or rollers' dirty hands? 🤢

I don't believe they have these signs in Cuban cigar factories...

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Great Work Greg and Jer! (Like Rob, I still think there's plume out there somewhere! :lol:)

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The hunt is on for the holy grail, genuine Plume..

Rob, did the team at Australian Biotech give any hints as to what genuine plume might look or feel like, up close or to the naked eye from their findings?

Or is it that the only way to be sure is via scientific analysis in every case

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Watch out for all the "plume" cigars being sold off in bulk quantity :D

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25 minutes ago, LordAnubis said:

Watch out for all the "plume" cigars being sold off in bulk quantity :D

Sale on cigars with "plume" :unsure:

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Well done! Thanks for the report.  :clap:

The Candida parapsilosis being of some concern. We didn't really want to know about that, did we?....

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This has been an amazing read and I appreciate all of your efforts immensely. Thank you for helping to get to the bottom of this.

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