LLC Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 A guy posted on another forum the other day about a case gone wrong. He had 32 boxes. They determined it was for commercial purposes and took all but 4 boxes. They didn't even give him the option to pay the fee. It was the Miami Florida airport.Not saying it is the case here but there are people from the US that go down monthly and buy $10,000 to bring back and sell. In that case it is for commercial purposes and if customs sees a pattern or makes that assumption, then they will confiscate them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 A guy posted on another forum the other day about a case gone wrong. He had 32 boxes. They determined it was for commercial purposes and took all but 4 boxes. They didn't even give him the option to pay the fee. It was the Miami Florida airport.Sounds like US customs was dead on in this case. That’s about 800 cigars - you can’t tell me that wasn’t for resale. If there’s anything like karma, it’s one of the notorious FB flippers with their own group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JY0 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lotusguy said: Sounds like US customs was dead on in this case. That’s about 800 cigars - you can’t tell me that wasn’t for resale. If there’s anything like karma, it’s one of the notorious FB flippers with their own group. Maybe, maybe not. I brought in 25 boxes and 3 bundles of customs last May...about 650 cigars and they were all for me. I'm going again next month, this time flying through Miami. Hope I don't have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterey Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Lotusguy said: Sounds like US customs was dead on in this case. That’s about 800 cigars - you can’t tell me that wasn’t for resale. If there’s anything like karma, it’s one of the notorious FB flippers with their own group. See YOU are the problem. You are a cigar guy and you think this volume is only for flippers. I brought back the same amount of cigars last month. I posted my load here in the "Share you cuban haul" thread. Aside from giving some away to friends, I will smoke every single one of them. If a cigar guy can't be convinced, how can we expect customs to believe. Yikes. And yes, I'll be back back next year buying an obnoxious amount. On a side note, I don't know this person, but from what little I know, I think he is a flipper. If true, I agree with you in celebrating his failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterey Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 He took a picture of his cigars being confiscated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markspring1978 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I think it all depends on who you get at customs. Of course, I bet if the customs agent sees that you’re going to Cuba once a month and you’re bringing back 800+ sticks, they will likely be suspicious. Last month I brought back 14 boxes from Cayman. The customs agent only joked that he thought that I should know that my cigars were likely from the Dominican. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 He took a picture of his cigars being confiscated.Shame about the cigars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 See YOU are the problem. You are a cigar guy and you think this volume is only for flippers. I brought back the same amount of cigars last month. I posted my load here in the "Share you cuban haul" thread. Aside from giving some away to friends, I will smoke every single one of them. If a cigar guy can't be convinced, how can we expect customs to believe. Yikes. And yes, I'll be back back next year buying an obnoxious amount. On a side note, I don't know this person, but from what little I know, I think he is a flipper. If true, I agree with you in celebrating his failure.Let’s look at it the other way - what percentage of people that bring this much home do not resell? I bet it’s a very small number - we here in this forum don’t represent “average” cigar smokers The exemption clearly states “for personal consumption” - and it is well within the rights of the customs official to determine what is personal consumption. With an amount like that, you’re definitely taking your chances. My guess is that guy didn’t declare them either in order to save the 4% or whatever it is and so they took a stricter interpretation when they did catch him. If you don’t declare, you’re SOL when caught and they could actually confiscate everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby07 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Monterey said: A guy posted on another forum the other day about a case gone wrong. He had 32 boxes. They determined it was for commercial purposes and took all but 4 boxes. They didn't even give him the option to pay the fee. It was the Miami Florida airport. I’d be curious to know if he declared them or tried to sneak them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derboesekoenig Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, Shelby07 said: I’d be curious to know if he declared them or tried to sneak them in. Didn't think about this. Even if I have 500 boxes...I'm going to declare them lol you never know what they decide to do, ya know? They might just let you go. I'm always as nice and cooperative as possible. Helps a ton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterey Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Shelby07 said: I’d be curious to know if he declared them or tried to sneak them in. He declared them. He did everything right. What I don't know is how often he goes and if they kept a record of his prior purchases. When I went thru, I didn't declare my 32 boxes because there was no place to do so. I was only asked in person if I was bringing plants(?) or alcohol. I said "I have 2 bottles of Rum". She waved me on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaclub Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 He declared them. He did everything right. What I don't know is how often he goes and if they kept a record of his prior purchases. When I went thru, I didn't declare my 32 boxes because there was no place to do so. I was only asked in person if I was bringing plants(?) or alcohol. I said "I have 2 bottles of Rum". She waved me on.Do you know him? Or did he just post that he said he declared them? I am willing to bet he may have a record of many trips down to Cuba within the past year or so and they put 2 and 2 together and determined the 32 boxes weren’t for personal consumption and didn’t even give him the chance to pay duties. Imo bringing 32 boxes back whether they are for personal consumption or not, you are asking for this to happen. At the end of the day, these customs officials can do what they please it seems. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasmith Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 2/7/2019 at 10:17 AM, JY0 said: I'm always honest in US Customs. It's legal to bring cigars in for personal use. I'm not going to risk losing them to avoid a 4% duty. (over $800) I agree. Small price to pay to make sure they get home. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSkySmoke Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Hellava snag. Could have happened to anyone going thru... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Tigre Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 9:16 AM, Monterey said: He took a picture of his cigars being confiscated. What all is present there? Are those Sir Winston x2 on the bottom near the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterey Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, La_Tigre said: What all is present there? Are those Sir Winston x2 on the bottom near the back? Montecristo. Can't remember which ones. Leyanda, dumas, something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinNukie Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I passed through the Port of Miami on Monday morning and US Customs simply asked if we had less than 100 cigars each (which we did) and I advised him that they were for personal use only. Cuban Customs getting aboard my ship never asked a question. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotaCohiba Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Sitting in Ft Lauderdale now and was called to the back room for having over 50 cigars. Had 120 Checked the bags, told me not to try to come back in again with over 50 They let me keep them this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JY0 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 There is a trend here. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLC Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 What happened to just paying the 4% duty if your over?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasmith Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, GotaCohiba said: Sitting in Ft Lauderdale now and was called to the back room for having over 50 cigars. Had 120 Checked the bags, told me not to try to come back in again with over 50 They let me keep them this time That’s not cool. Sure don’t like to hear that. Coming back through Ft Lauderdale in July and was hoping they weren’t cracking down. So, over 50 and they are a little threatening? Glad you made it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corylax18 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, GotaCohiba said: Sitting in Ft Lauderdale now and was called to the back room for having over 50 cigars. Had 120 Checked the bags, told me not to try to come back in again with over 50 They let me keep them this time ???????????????? Did you declare anything? Or did they see it on the X ray? These idiots need to get on the same damn page. How do they expect us to hit a moving target? I'm sorry to hear they hassled you, I went through FLL last week with about 200 and three bottle of rum Nobody said a word. Things certainly aren't trending up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotaCohiba Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, Corylax18 said: ???????????????? Did you declare anything? Or did they see it on the X ray? These idiots need to get on the same damn page. How do they expect us to hit a moving target? I'm sorry to hear they hassled you, I went through FLL last week with about 200 and three bottle of rum Nobody said a word. Things certainly aren't trending up. I've always declared what I have That may change in the future due to this trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotaCohiba Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 The good news is that my wife and daughter were with me and they didn't bat an eye when they told them that they had 100 ea and 3 bottles of rum Same agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaclub Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 The good news is that my wife and daughter were with me and they didn't bat an eye when they told them that they had 100 ea and 3 bottles of rum Same agent So in other words you had 320 cigars in total Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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