mrmessy Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I was looking forward to this cigar as I had a box that I have not touched yet. Unfortunately, this was an utter disaster of a cigar. First third.From the beginning, it had a wonky burn and there was no hope for it. The wrapper just wasn't burning, and when it did it was canoeing. Tunneling all the way through. Flavor? Toasted tobacco. But very light. Second third.I had to relight this cigar so many times. The cigar was spongy from the start as well. Didn't seem under packed, but I think it may have been given how poorly it smoked. More tunneling.Flavor? Air. This is not good. Last third.Can't smoke any more. Tired of relighting and getting zero for the efforts. Anyhow, I will admit, the weather was not great. It's been raining for several days and continues to do so. That may be a contributing factor to the burn issues. Hoping to have a different experience on a different day. Oh, paired with black coffee. Nothing fancy. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derboesekoenig Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 That's extremely disappointing. While I've only smoked a handful of these, they were all pretty good. Definitely didn't experience any of the issues described. Hopefully you have better luck with the next one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Gutted for you. Great honest review though. Not heard anything bad about these until now, but that does look like that thick fire retardant wrapper that was on the Hoyo Regalos? I think from memory. From what I can see of the ash whilst it was there, it does look like it was shrinking down quite a few RGs, usually pointing towards under-filling. Did you dry box this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Yeah that sucks. Hopefully you just picked that “ratio” cigar and the rest are good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunod Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I hate that. Antisapating a great smoke and it utterly disappoints. It sucks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJRPorter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Uhhh! I hate when that happens. Maybe you just picked the one bad out of the whole box. Any indicators pre-light that was noticeable as being iffy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islandboy Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I had a similar experience with my first Talisman out of the box a week or so ago - the wrapper was very reluctant to burn, and the burn line had that hard, shiny black lacquered look to it. It had a very strong flavor profile...reminded me more of an NC to be honest. I just chalked it up to youth and being a bit moist, but it was a rainy, humid day here, and it’s interesting you mention that too. Could that have such an immediate negative effect? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucko8 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Sorry to read this has happened for you mate. I had a similar experience on the Punch Regio LE. Fortunately the second stick I tried 2 months later was good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmessy Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 Gutted for you. Great honest review though. Not heard anything bad about these until now, but that does look like that thick fire retardant wrapper that was on the Hoyo Regalos? I think from memory. From what I can see of the ash whilst it was there, it does look like it was shrinking down quite a few RGs, usually pointing towards under-filling. Did you dry box this?I didn't. It was stored in a 65/65 environment. Smoked through the others from the sampler before getting to this one. I know the humidity outside was high because of the recent rain, but this was ridiculous. This is the first time that I had a wrapper burn (or not burn) like this. I was going to wait until the spring before getting into the box that I have. Hoping for better sticks there. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmessy Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 Uhhh! I hate when that happens. Maybe you just picked the one bad out of the whole box. Any indicators pre-light that was noticeable as being iffy?I thought the construction was good. It may have been a little soft, but I may just be remembering wrong. The stick looked beautiful. Better than the ones in the box I bought. Was looking forward to a great smoke. Had no obvious concerns up front. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeUgood Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, mrmessy said: I didn't. It was stored in a 65/65 environment. Smoked through the others from the sampler before getting to this one. I know the humidity outside was high because of the recent rain, but this was ridiculous. This is the first time that I had a wrapper burn (or not burn) like this. I was going to wait until the spring before getting into the box that I have. Hoping for better sticks there. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk you already went through the sampler ? How was it as a whole, were any of the cigars too young? I am staring at mine right now, still untouched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmessy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I had a similar experience with my first Talisman out of the box a week or so ago - the wrapper was very reluctant to burn, and the burn line had that hard, shiny black lacquered look to it. It had a very strong flavor profile...reminded me more of an NC to be honest. I just chalked it up to youth and being a bit moist, but it was a rainy, humid day here, and it’s interesting you mention that too. Could that have such an immediate negative effect?Possibly. But I would be surprised that was the some reason to have this much of an effect. Either way, I'll think twice smoking in this weather. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, HopeUgood said: you already went through the sampler ? How was it as a whole, were any of the cigars too young? I am staring at mine right now, still untouched. I am going through my Christmas sampler. The HDM double corona was really awesome. Clove, spice anisette. Just lovely 2 hour smoke. Have to get more of these. Then the La Fuerza. Another great smoke. The RASS was just flavorless. It was way too young. The JL#2 was good. Citrus and orange with cocoa. Glad I have a box of these. All had pretty good construction. Leaving the rest alone for another month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmessy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 you already went through the sampler ? How was it as a whole, were any of the cigars too young? I am staring at mine right now, still untouched.I've had everything in the sampler before except the Presidente and this SE1. Coincidentally, these were the worst smokes for me. I still haven't smoked the HDMDC, it seemed this would need the most time to acclimate. Overall, it was what I expected. Too soon to smoke, but some potential. I didn't follow Prez's advice and dry box for a week. That may have made a difference with the SE1. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc1016 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Sorry to hear it, Hyun. Maybe it's a good sign though - you've paid your dues and have a year worth of great-performing smoked ahead of you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raskol Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Smoked a few, all of them was great so far & I believe your next ones would be great... Thanks for the honest review. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houdini Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 My exoerience was very similar. Hopefully they'll get a little better with time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padrinocubano Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 this is not a Serie E No.1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrretrohale Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Had one myself and can attest to the flavours, however, had better luck with the burn. Tasted nothing like any partagas, but also tasted like nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Jimmy_jack This is the Serie E No.1 (Habanos Collection Series or 'book-humi') This Series No.1 (EL 2017, as per review above): Both very good cigars in my book. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 [mention=29775]Jimmy_jack[/mention] This is the Serie E No.1 (Habanos Collection Series or 'book-humi') This Series No.1 (EL 2017, as per review above): Both very good cigars in my book. ...okay?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jimmy_jack said: ...okay? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro to help you out with your confusion.... (re post of @padrinocubano ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmessy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 15 hours ago, padrinocubano said: this is not a Serie E No.1 Yup. just called it what was on Prez's post and his video review. but you are accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Mr. Messy, I have had a hell of a time with the weather you and I have had. Hard to believe, but I am convinced the rain/humidity has been to blame for similar experiences I've had over the last few weeks. We've been drowning here. Record annual rainfall in 30 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man D'olin Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Sorry you got a bad one! I am smoking mine now from the sampler- my first from this Vitola and my first from the sampler. i am having the opposite experience- a powerhouse of burnt coffee and dark chocolate from the beginning. Great draw, lots of smoke, even burn. I was thinking how I would love to have some more of these. i guess I just got lucky in cigar roulette- I will definitely buy at least a quarter box if they ever come up on 24:24. A powerhouse. Again, I am sorry that you and some of the other brothers didn’t get a good one. ”sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you” or words to that effect, as the cowboy says in that Coen brothers movie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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