Habanos Box Dimensions. A Crowd sourcing initiative.


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Excel would be a lot easier to look at/interpret. Cool idea.

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Few years ago I had the feeling of starting a little program to calculate the best way to accommodate all the boxes in the space you have (aka inside your humidor(s)). Had to pass as I completely forgot how to start something like that (long gone my time of engineer). Basically would be a "professional Tetris": Give your humidor dimensions and all the boxes dimensions you have and voilá you will have the optimum way to put them together without wasting any cm.

Maybe someone out there with time and knowledge can do it. Anyone?

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I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed.

Here goes!

Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box)

W = 3.2 cm

H = 0.4 cm

L = 2.2 cm

 

Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box)

W = 2.7 cm

H = 0.5 cm

L = 2.7 cm

 

Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box)

W = 3.6 cm

H = 0.7 cm

L = 2.8 cm

 

Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. 

Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks?

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12 hours ago, prodigy said:

Excel would be a lot easier to look at/interpret. Cool idea.

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That's the origin of the doc. I copy/pasted it here for ease. Will update the original sheet as more entries come in. :)

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11 hours ago, MooseAMuffin said:

I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed.

Here goes!

Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box)

W = 3.2 cm

H = 0.4 cm

L = 2.2 cm

 

Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box)

W = 2.7 cm

H = 0.5 cm

L = 2.7 cm

 

Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box)

W = 3.6 cm

H = 0.7 cm

L = 2.8 cm

 

Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. 

Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks?

I think you messed up. ;) Those #'s are way too low. Measure in inches and then use your calculator conversion function or Google for the conversion. For instance.  "11.5 inches in cm" . Google will pop out the correct conversion.  ?

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2 hours ago, bundwallah said:

I think you messed up. ;) Those #'s are way too low. Measure in inches and then use your calculator conversion function or Google for the conversion. For instance.  "11.5 inches in cm" . Google will pop out the correct conversion.  ?

Gaaaaah, I divided instead of multiplied. I'll update them when I get home, sorry!

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23 hours ago, MooseAMuffin said:

I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed.

Here goes!

Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box)

W = 20.9 cm

H = 2.9 cm

L = 14 cm

 

Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box)

W = 17.5 cm

H = 3.3 cm

L = 17.5 cm

 

Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box)

W = 23.5 cm

H = 4.3 cm

L = 18.3 cm

 

Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. 

Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks?

Edited my calculations above!

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Monte Petit Edmundo  10ctn    H = 3.3   L = 12.7  W = 22.1

RA Superiors     H = 2.9  L= 16.2 W = 19.4

Boli GM  H = 2.7 L= 18.1 W = 17.9

Party P #2 10ctn   H = 3.4 L = 17.1 W = 22 

Monte #2 10ctn   H = 2.8  L = 17.2  W = 21.1

HU Noella  (box)  H = 22 L = 14.5 W = 14.5

LGC Deliciosos jar  (box)   H = 22 L = 16.1 W = 16.1

Diplomaticos Nortenos   H =  3.1 L = 14.1 W = 20.7

Monte Esp #2  H = 4.2 L = 17 W = 20.7

 

 

  

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This is a great initiative that I was hoping to bump and keep it going! 

 Was hoping to get box dimensions for the following:

PLPC 50 cab, RYJ Wide Churchills box of 25 and Monte No.2 box of 25. Thanks!! :)

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On 10/30/2019 at 2:48 AM, benfica_77 said:

This is a great initiative that I was hoping to bump and keep it going! 

 Was hoping to get box dimensions for the following:

PLPC 50 cab, RYJ Wide Churchills box of 25 and Monte No.2 box of 25. Thanks!! :)

Montecristo No.2 (25 ct dress box): W=27.4 H=4.9 D=17.1

PLPC 50 cab: W=16.4 H=11.5 D=14.5 

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On 1/8/2019 at 11:49 AM, oliverdst said:

Few years ago I had the feeling of starting a little program to calculate the best way to accommodate all the boxes in the space you have (aka inside your humidor(s)). Had to pass as I completely forgot how to start something like that (long gone my time of engineer). Basically would be a "professional Tetris": Give your humidor dimensions and all the boxes dimensions you have and voilá you will have the optimum way to put them together without wasting any cm.

Maybe someone out there with time and knowledge can do it. Anyone?

The packing problem is not all that trivial an application. It is classified as an NP-hard problem in computational complexity theory. Like many problems like this these days, there is an existing tool, in this case called "BurrTools" that could be adapted. Its designed for solving burr puzzles and also packing puzzles like the Soma Cube.  A clever and powerful application in which you just need to specify the shape and size of each piece and the final size and shape of the container and let it find the solution(s). These solutions can then be animated with a slider in 3D. For burrs (not really relevant to packing puzzles like the Soma cube or a humidor), it can order the solutions by most or least total moves, or the most or least moves for the first piece. For the humidor problem (formally known as the "knapsack problem"), it would need to be adapted to be able to specify a solution ordering based on packing density. Developed by a very clever Russian programmer called Andreas Röver. Its free on SourceForge and the code is available if anyone wants to give it a crack. I would if I had the time and motivation, but alas I don't have either to disappear down that rabbit hole! It would be a bit of work to adapt to make it suitable for easily selecting and identifying cigar boxes, and to allow a finer cell size selection, and also to add packing density as mentioned above, as it is based on puzzle pieces currently. Being a puzzler solver, for packing problems it currently only looks for a solution with 100% packing density, i..e THE solution to the puzzle. The application is currently much more powerful for burr puzzles especially multiple move ("holey") burrs. Would require someone with C++ programming skills, and a good understanding of combinatorial optimization and group theory.

Its not as simple as Tetris. I've programmed Tetris from scratch on a few different platforms myself, but remember, the Tetris game doesn't have a clue about how to optimally play the game. The player does that! The only things in Tetris that are challenging to code for are in reality mostly trivial really, and consist of optimised collision detection, implementing proper "random bag" selection logic for next piece selection, and line completion logic, and none of these are anywhere near as challenging as the packing problem itself.

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On 1/8/2019 at 7:37 AM, bundwallah said:
Box Width (front facing) Height Depth (length)
Behike 52 24.2 4.8 16
Behike 54 25 5 18.3
Behike 56 26 5 20.6
Bolivar Gold Medals      
Bolivar Belicosos Finos (db) 27 4.8 15.5
Bolivar Coronas Junior 21.5 4 12.5
Boliver Royal Corona      
       
Cohiba 1966      
Cohiba Esplendido 26 4.7 20
Cohiba Exquisitos 19.1 3.8 14.6
Cohiba Lancero      
Cohiba Lanceros 21.6 4 21.5
Cohiba Piramides EL 2006      
Cohiba Piramides Extra      
Cohiba Robusto (25 slb)      
Cohiba Siglo I (25 slb) 10.9 8.3 11.2
Cohiba Siglo VI (25 slb)      
Cohiba Siglo VI (10 slb) 11.5 5.2 16.5
Diplomaticos No 2 26.8 4.9 17.1
Diplomaticos No 4 22 4 14.2
       
Diplomaticos No 7 14.6 6 17
       
El Rey del Mundo Choix Supreme 25 4.4 14.1
El Rey del Mundo Infantes 20.2 2.9 14
El Rey del Mundo Tainos 25.5 5 19.4
H Upmann Noellas Jar      
       
H Upmann Royal Robusto 21.5 3.2 15
Hoyo De Monterry Dieux (slb) 11.4 8.7 17
Hoyo De Monterry Du Dauphin      
Hoyo De Monterry Du Gourmet      
Hoyo De Monterry Palmas Extra      
H Upmann Connie A      
Juan Lopez S No 2      
La Escepcion Selectos Finos (25 db)      
La Escepcion Selectos Finos (jar)      
La Escepcion Don Jose (db) 25.1 4.3 14
La Flor de Cano AP RE Grandiosos 11.5 5.2 15.2
La Flor Del Cano Grandiosos      
La Gloria Cubana Deliciosos Jar      
La Gloria Cubana Inmenso      
La Gloria Cubana MdO No 2      
Los Statos Delux Cremas      
Montecristo 520 22.6 3.3 17
Montecristo Esp No 1      
Montecristo Gran Edmundo 21.2 3 15.6
Montecristo No 4 21.8 3.8 14.4
Montecristo Sublimes      
Ramon Allones 898 16.6 5.6 18.7
Partagas 898 16.6 5.6 18.7
Partagas Culebra (outer box) 17.4 5.8 16.8
Partagas E2 (5 slb) 12 3.2 15.7
Partagas Lusitania (25 db) 25.5 4.5 20.7
Partagas Selection Privada EL 2014 20.7 3 17.6
Partagas SDC No1      
Peter Schuyler Perfectos      
Por Larranaga Picadores      
Partagas Serie D No 4      
Punch Double Corona 50 cab 19 13.2 21
Punch Gran Robusto RE Spain 21.2 3.3 17.2
Punch Punch (25 db)      
Quai D'Orsay Coronas 23 4.5 15.7
Quai D'Orsay Imperiales 25.5 4.8 19.3
Quai D'Orsay Panatelas      
Quintero Panatellas      
Ramon Allones Extras LE 2011      
Ramon Allones Gorditos      
Ramon Allones Robusto Corta (paises bajo) 13.3 10.2 12
Ramon Allones Super Ramon RE 2011 Canada      
Ramon Allones Superiores      
Ramon Allones Celestiales Finos 13 10 15.5
Raman Allones Panatelas 18.5 3.3 14.4
Ramon Allones 898      
Ramon Allones Grandes 9.8 7 19.6
Ramon Allones Small Club Corona      
Ramon Allones Specially Selected (25 db)      
Ramon Allones Specially Selected (50 cab) 19.2 13.3 14
RyJ Cazadores 17.7 9.5 11.4
RyJ Cazadores      
Trinidad Fundadores      
Trinidad Ingenios      
Trinidad Robusto Extra      
Trinidad Robusto T (12)      
Trinidad Robusto T (24)      
Vegas Robaina Unicos      
Vegas Robaina XV Aniversario RE Canada 2011      

Glad to see this project is still alive! Is this measurement displayed in inches or cm?

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15 minutes ago, LonesomeHabanoAficionado said:

Glad to see this project is still alive! Is this measurement displayed in inches or cm?

It's in centimetres. Glad to see people sending updates. Which means, I should update the table too!  :D

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