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ICC World Cup 2019 (50 overs) in England

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34 minutes ago, JohnS said:

I tell you though, Eoin Morgan's 17 sixes last night in his 148-run inning of 71 balls was amazing! Also Shakib Al Hasan's 124 not out against the West Indies. 

Bring on today's game! Will New Zealand remain undefeated or will South Africa start to play like the current No.3 ranked ODI team in the world?

Also, will Shakib Al Hasan's form continue against Australia on Thursday?

john, they play on postage stamps over there. even i got to thump a few sixes way back when. most were mis-hits but still cleared the fence. put them out on the mcg and see how many they hit. but kudos to england for making sure they do have that excellent run rate. we have not been so clever. 

my tv died midway through the aussies most recent game (could have been worse - could have been midway through the first origin). hoping to have the new one set up later today. 

global audience for an indian v england final? 

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Yes Ken, those grounds are ridiculously small. Mishits go for six too often. An India-England World Cup final would attract a huge worldwide television audience, no doubt.

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22 hours ago, JohnS said:

I tell you though, Eoin Morgan's 17 sixes last night in his 148-run inning of 71 balls was amazing! Also Shakib Al Hasan's 124 not out against the West Indies. 

Bring on today's game! Will New Zealand remain undefeated or will South Africa start to play like the current No.3 ranked ODI team in the world?

Also, will Shakib Al Hasan's form continue against Australia on Thursday?

Many of those runs against Rashid Khan too, perhaps most touted bowler coming in to the ICC. He was hit for one (?) run less than the worse WC spell ever. Including 11 sixes. Nice to watch highlights from but not a great competitive game.

I think today's game was one of the better ones even though NZ probably should have finished it off a few balls earlier. Much more to work with for the bowlers (@Ken Gargett approves I assume?): watching Tahir bowl with some run pressure on the batsmen is always fun, Henry wicketless but bowled great, and Ferguson picking up another three. Solid innings from de Grandhomme on both sides of the bat, Kane was a controlled monster batting. Overall, very happy with today's game, glad to see a total under 250 without it being completely trashed. Seeing the unfortunate out for Guptil and the wide that became a wicket, I still see NZ as a strong contender moving forward.

In other news, Zimbabwe's cricket woes (this time ON the field) continues as they were stomped by the Netherlands. Ol' Brendan Taylor called up again and was the only batter in the top 8 to produce more than 21 runs.

Looking forward to tomorrow! (might cheer for Bangladesh..)

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Oh yeah, things are starting to heat up! Malinga of five years ago showing up, and another game with a relatively low total (this time defended!).

Eoin going from hitting 17 sixes to none (off 35 balls). Hats off to Sri Lanka, they looked better than in a long while. England must be feeling some pressure, two losses after six games but with India, NZ, and Australia left to play. Who knows, maybe both England and WI will miss the semis? Ha! 😂

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In the last few days I've been heartened by how unpredictable cricket can be. I can't believe how far South Africa have slid, in my mind, in professionalism in this tournament. Their errors against New Zealand were too numerous, in the field, to believe that these guys are not mentally distracted off the field. It could be the AB de Villiers non-selection fiasco/issue, it could be something as simple as the quota issue (the South African team must have a quota of non-whites in their team) which has influenced the Kolpak players (i.e. South African Internationals that have opted not to play for SA and instead are playing in England on the County Cricket circuit).

I genuinely feel that New Zealand should not have won that game against South Africa. All it took was for one of those catches to stick, one of those easy run-outs to occur or simply Williamson being reviewed on 76 for the caught behind off Tahir and wasn't. Oh well, good luck to New Zealand. Like the last World Cup, they've gone about their business game by game.

Now, as for last night's match. Would you be worried if you were England? I say this now because they've lost not one, but two matches to teams they were heavily favoured against (Pakistan and Sri Lanka). They now have Australia, India and New Zealand to play. This loss gives Australia breathing space in their games against England, New Zealand and South Africa. And so the pressure really is on England now. How valuable has Jason Roy been to their plans? What's Plan B now?

As for Sri Lanka, yes, cricket is a funny game. Your captain, Karunaratne and Perera smash Australia at around 8 an over in reply as openers and SL loses by 87 runs. Against England, these guys are gone for single figures but the old-guard, Angelo Mathews and Lasith Malinga rescue the team for a famous victory.

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1 hour ago, JohnS said:

I genuinely feel that New Zealand should not have won that game against South Africa. All it took was for one of those catches to stick, one of those easy run-outs to occur or simply Williamson being reviewed on 76 for the caught behind off Tahir and wasn't. Oh well, good luck to New Zealand. Like the last World Cup, they've gone about their business game by game.

john, you wouldn't be suggesting match-fixing, would you?

because that never happens in cricket. and with south africa especially! 

more seriously, i still think england are second fave behind india (if they do miss the semis, that place will crucify them). india have been so impressive. long been a a kohli fan, even though a touch abrasive. hard to see them losing a game. but england will be feeling massive pressure. nz continue along outperforming what one expects but i can't see them doing it at the top level right through. and i still think that we have a couple of stars at the top of both batting and bowling but nothing behind that and that won't be enough against the best. we don't have the depth. 

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No, I'm not being disingenuous in stating that it didn't enter my thoughts whatsoever. Pakistan in 1992 and Australia in 1999 have demonstrated that teams can build momentum after slow starts and win the whole thing but I can't see South Africa doing this in '19.

As for Australia, Yes Ken I agree with you. Finch, Warner and Smith in the runs and Starc and Cummins in the wickets has seen them account for the 5 wins but at least when they've been under pressure in games players like Coulter-Nile hit 92 against the West Indies and Maxwell bowled 10 overs against Sri Lanka for 45. But that's WI and SL. It probably wouldn't happen against NZ, India or England in a semi-final.

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1 hour ago, JohnS said:

No, I'm not being disingenuous in stating that it didn't enter my thoughts whatsoever. Pakistan in 1992 and Australia in 1999 have demonstrated that teams can build momentum after slow starts and win the whole thing but I can't see South Africa doing this in '19.

As for Australia, Yes Ken I agree with you. Finch, Warner and Smith in the runs and Starc and Cummins in the wickets has seen them account for the 5 wins but at least when they've been under pressure in games players like Coulter-Nile hit 92 against the West Indies and Maxwell bowled 10 overs against Sri Lanka for 45. But that's WI and SL. It probably wouldn't happen against NZ, India or England in a semi-final.

one other thing - sri lanka has done us no favours. beating england the game before they play us will have them fired up and desperate. 

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Prior to the Afghanistan vs Bangladesh clash today, here is the table as it stands...

Team  M  W  L  T  P  NRR
NZ 6  5  0  0 11  1.306
AUS 6  5  1  0 10  0.849
INDIA 5  4  0  0  9  0.809
ENG 6  4  2  0  8  1.457
SL 6  2  2  0  6 -1.119
BDESH 6  2  3  0  5 -0.407
PAK 6  2  3  0  5 -1.265
WI 6  1  4  0  3 0.19
SA 7  1  5  0  3 -0.324
AFG 6  0  6  0  0 -1.712

I think the top 4 will remain, but perhaps not necessarily in that order. The weekend's games were outstanding!

             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             

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1 hour ago, JohnS said:

Prior to the Afghanistan vs Bangladesh clash today, here is the table as it stands...

Team  M  W  L  T  P  NRR
NZ 6  5  0  0 11  1.306
AUS 6  5  1  0 10  0.849
INDIA 5  4  0  0  9  0.809
ENG 6  4  2  0  8  1.457
SL 6  2  2  0  6 -1.119
BDESH 6  2  3  0  5 -0.407
PAK 6  2  3  0  5 -1.265
WI 6  1  4  0  3 0.19
SA 7  1  5  0  3 -0.324
AFG 6  0  6  0  0 -1.712

I think the top 4 will remain, but perhaps not necessarily in that order. The weekend's games were outstanding!

             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             

john, my pick for the final four and order is india, england, austrralia and nz. so we would have to play england in a semi. not easy. rather play nz and have england and india beat themselves up. 

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After two and a half games, the top four was the same and I thought there was a good chance they would stay. But it is not a done deal and I hope that we'll see some more upsets. The last four-five games have been much more competitive, I truly wished Afghanistan could have taken down India. Shakib showing once again today that he IS the best all-rounder since Kallis. Noone comes close in today's cricket imho.

The washouts earlier this tournament really has put some dampness on the standings. The top four have only benefited from the rain unfortunately.

Highlights from Shakib's 5/29:

 

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