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5 minutes ago, MIKA27 said:

 

"VeganStreet".com? Hilarious. 🤪  In all seriousness MIKA, nobody here on a forum which promotes cigar smoking should "nanny mommy"  any member here for the food or drink choices they choose to make. 

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I was a butcher for years and see the rise of faux meat as an inevitable thing. The state of mass farming is in shambles (referring to North America) its terrible for the environment and the meat quality is trash. The rise of Faux meat (plus how expensive a low quality steak is at the grocery store) will make people realize the beef you should be eating is the proper stuff raised on a local farm. the money goes to a hard working family, the beef isn't filled with antibiotics, its better for your health and most importantly IT TASTES BETTER, for Burgers, go to your local butcher and get ground chuck and ground brisket and mix those together. Meat is a treat, and into the future we're going to see beef prices continue to rise globally, might as well get the good stuff. 

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I had one of the competitors (forget which) patties at work a couple of weeks ago. You could tell it was different but it tasted a lot closer to the real thing that any other vegan burger I've had before. I preferred it to the cheap patties they usually serve tbh! But agree with others nothing beats the real thing for me yet.

Fascinating tech. Hope it succeeds.

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I think that many here who have had teen daughters/nieces/grand daughters has seen them at least experiment with a vegetarian phase. 

Cooking those early soy sausages/patties on the BBQ to make them feel part of the family BBQ was an eye opener. Remember how they use to taste :o

I am all for a massive improvement in this realm. I can't see a downside for the rest of us. 

 

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I went plant based nearly 3 years ago.

 

I don't rely on these faux meat's as part of my daily diet but they're great to have when out and about or at a bbq e.t.c.

 

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9 hours ago, Fuzz said:

I've had a vegan meal once

Its good we have a safe space here, to confess such happenings

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vege bacon has been going for years. it has the consistency of cardboard, but if but in a BLT, it is vaguely enjoyable

Once point. haven't scientist worked out, that it's the processing of food thats giving everyone cancer.  How would these blended up beetroot patties be any different? if not worse?

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Is Burger King the best place to roll these out? Do BKs burgers taste like meat to begin with? 

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  I haven't tried the Burger King one but others, my wife is semi-vegan depending on how poorly it makes her feel  :pod:

  There's one shining light I've found though:

  No Bull burgers genuinely taste just like the real thing, the texture, look, smell, taste, everything. In fact unless I'm making myself real burgers from scratch, I pick them over store bought beef patties. Plus their half the calories so I can have two!!

  A lot of other fake meats are pretty awful though, I'd say 98%. Some of the Quorn chicken things are just the same though, mostly the chicken nugget/southern fried things but I think that says more about the quality of chicken nuggets etc in general than the state of Quorn.

  

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No Bull are great, B

2 hours ago, 99call said:

vege bacon has been going for years. it has the consistency of cardboard, but if but in a BLT, it is vaguely enjoyable

Once point. haven't scientist worked out, that it's the processing of food thats giving everyone cancer.  How would these blended up beetroot patties be any different? if not worse?

 

Vegan Bacon - get down holland & barret

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I don't think any processed food is good for you and ideally a whole food's diet would be the best but as far as I know meat & dairy are proven to be the most carcinogenic food groups.

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4 minutes ago, JoeyGunz said:

No Bull are great, B

 

Vegan Bacon - get down holland & barret

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I don't think any processed food is good for you and ideally a whole food's diet would be the best but as far as I know meat & dairy are proven to be the most carcinogenic food groups.

Very strange that the've got for health food warning style packaging.  Looks like they are trying to play around with the concept, but just succeeded in making it look toxic 

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9 hours ago, NYgarman said:

No thanks. I am almost 53, healthy and have been eating REAL beef from cows my whole life. No need for an artificial product that uses genetic engineering and has higher sodium levels that real red meat. I enjoy real burgers, real filet mignon steaks and real meat. The vegan folks can have at it. More power to them. And to the anti-cow crowd, here in the USA cattle farmers are not going anywhere. At least not in my lifetime.

Couldn't have said it better myself! X2! (Only I'm 38, lol 😁)

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9 hours ago, MIKA27 said:

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Gross over simplification. If you exercise regularly, watch your saturated and trans fat intake, nothing wrong with lean real meat, ever. (On a side note, I taught a  nutritional sciences class for years at the collegiate level). Both sides over simplify things to make their points.

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All that soy. If you want to lower your testosterone and grow man boobs, this is definitely the “meat” for you. 

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As a member of PETF I can not partake in the eating of faux.

The only ethical way to treat faux meats, is to release them back to the wild via your neatest trash receptacle.

#Faux lives matter

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6 hours ago, madandana said:

Is Burger King the best place to roll these out? Do BKs burgers taste like meat to begin with? 

I think you are on to their logic.🤔

CEO: How are we gonna roll these things out? They don't taste like burgers!

PR Director: Don't worry...Burger King expressed interest.

CEO: Perfect! This will be a step up for their customers.

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As you might imagine, beyond enjoying beer, coffee, whisky, cigars, I am a big, big foodie. Piled on top of that I'm in Alberta and we take our beef very seriously here.

With that said, I realize that on a long enough timescale meat as we know it is going to radically change around the world. I also recognize as I get older my diet needs to continue to improve.

All of that leading into the fact I tried the Impossible burger. In terms of mouthfeel and texture; I would say the texture is very close to beef, and the mouthfeel is a bit on the dry side but has enough juiciness to it that I can almost be convinced it's meat. The aftertaste lacks the umami of fattiness that beef gives you, and the overall flavor profile, while good, is not beef.

I think it's by far the best vegetarian burger I've ever tasted in my life, and 2nd place is not even remotely close.

I will eat it again, and I hope they continue to work on improving it.

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I suppose I can see the interest.   Is BK really the herbivores market though? Seeing a large % of vegetarians are health nuts, I have a feeling that this option isn't going to have them lining up. It may pique enough interest that people will try it at BK, but will they make a habit out of BK meals.

I truly hope it gets popular so beef demand shifts and I can start getting some decent quality cow a decent price. I personally prefer bison to cow lately... These low quality cow cuts are insanely priced around me.

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It is not about getting vegetarians/vegans in the door. It is about getting back those customers that used to go to BK, but no longer do, because it wasn't a healthy choice.

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Food is good, and ever changing.

I have been in the meat business since 1975, working in most areas, from labourer in the beef plant through to running a federal abattoir.

Sales and sales training in COP (centre of the plate) for about 13years, past 9 sales for a food brokerage.

Over the years I've had occasion to try a large percentage of new vegan and vegetarian burgers as well as plant based non dairy cheese style products. I have enjoyed many of these products coming to market. some I have felt are not so good. One of the best restaurant meals I had in 2017 was at a vegan restaurant. Last week I tried a new beet and sunflower seed patty from a new vegan manufacturer we will be representing, I have a lot of others items they make which I will need to try over the coming weeks, and will probably prepare with a new vegan cheese like line also new.

I am a Meat Head, I am very particular about which cuts I buy, how I age them and I do the cutting. Enjoyed the heck out a nice braised Lamb Shank Sunday night and a great piece of grilled fresh Cod Saturday night. I have also paid closer attention to my fitness and diet over the years and probably eat less red meat and more seafood.

Fact is the vegetarian & vegan market is part of the future, stay healthy and always make time to relax with a nice cigar.

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I think it’s great that there are better options for vegetarians and vegans out there and I believe there is huge growth potential for the industry. For me personally as a consumer, I much rather eat meat than genetically engineered food and the ingredient list is downright scary.

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