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Superb thread and challenge - very interesting to snapshot that transition period - well done on the excellent detail provided! :clap:

I think I have four members completing the journey thus far:

@Reverb

@Chibearsv

@Doctortrent

& @khenry0105

Congrats :party: - we're organising your vouchers and I'll be in touch with each of you via PM to pass on the details! 

Might be one or two still to lodge 60-day result in the coming days, I'll monitor and post when they come in. :cigar:

Cheers! 

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Monte 2 - 60 Day Review 

REG SEP 19

Prelight: Appearance remains beautiful, even darker chocolate appearance.  The oils seem to be absorbed back into the cigar.  The prelight draw was restrained.  
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First Third:  It lite and burned well, great construction.  The predominant flavor was herbaceous.  Like the smoke ROTT, and unlike the 30 day sampling.  That herbaceousness built gaining heft, overlaid an earth.  At the end of the first third there was a puff of Monte-twang, oooh, so good - but then gone.

 

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Second Third: Dark black coffee — and in spades.  Strong coffee at that, until it became espresso, even a bit bitter.

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Last Third:  More espresso.  I slowed down the burn rate, puffing only minute or so to tame the bitterness.  

Overview: 

First, thank you to our host for organizing this.  It is great fun!  I love delving into our love of the Cuban leaf.

It appears as if there is some intra-box variance, one blend with herby sense, another ligero dominant. A buddy and I had 2 from this box a couple weeks ago, after 30 day mark — both ligero rich.  

Time helped compared to arrival.  A few years I expect to really do wonders.  
 

 

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I really enjoyed following this experiment. Nice work guys.


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June 5
Romeo y Juliet Churchill
60 days
 
Even nicer oily sheen.
 
1st third
Very prominent black cherry.  Some stronger floral than the 30 day cigar. Good burn, a bit tight under the bands, having to work a bit to get a good draw.
 
2nd third
Floral changing to biscuit (buttermilk, not cookie), warm bread. Still strong black cherry.
 
3rd third
More warn bread, some ginger spice.
 
Score 92
 
Final comments
I’ve never reviewed cigars before these last six reviews (I also reviewed the Monte at 1, 30, & 60 days.) I admit I utilized some different cigar flavor wheels and found them helpful. I surprised myself I was able to pick out distinct flavors, albeit with flavor-wheel guidance. I’m most amazed at how awful the cigars were after first receiving them and then still had mixed results at 30 days. Additionally surprised how much better the cigars were at 60 days.
 
 
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On 5/25/2020 at 6:40 PM, Chibearsv said:

Ok, it's day 60 for my box of Monte #2 TPO MAR 19

Cigars look great now in the box with sheen and very little bumpiness. Box aroma is the same since the start of this experiment - lovely aroma of milk chocolate and straw (not as sour now though)

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Clip the end, lovely cold aroma of chocolate and straw.  Draw is perfect for me with light/medium resistance.  1st third is sweet milk chocolate and vanilla, medium body.

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2nd 3rd swings into more barnyard twang with the sweetness and chocolate going to the background.  Burning perfectly

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Final third transitions again to a more earthy forest floor taste and very slight pepper.

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No retouches or re-lights.  Smoked it down to the nub and loved it.  I wasn't expecting this cigar to be so Monte 2 but it was exactly what I would be looking for.  Solid A - delicious.  I never expected the change from ROTT to now to be as drastic as it was for this box.  You pondering that perhaps I just picked a gem for this last smoke?  Maybe, but this experiment has made a believer out of me.

@Chibearsv what does ROTT stand for???

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2 minutes ago, cgoodrich said:

@Chibearsv what does ROTT stand for???

“Right off the truck”. Smoking one when it gets delivered without letting them acclimate for 60-90 days.  It was the point of the experiment to see if there was a noticeable difference in taste by simply waiting a couple months after delivery. 

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June 5 Romeo y Juliet Churchill 60 days   Even nicer oily sheen.   1st third Very prominent black cherry.  Some stronger floral than the 30 day cigar. Good burn, a bit tight under the bands, having to work a bit to get a good draw.   2nd third Floral changing to biscuit (buttermilk, not cookie), warm bread. Still strong black cherry.   3rd third More warn bread, some ginger spice.   Score 92   Final comments I’ve never reviewed cigars before these last six reviews (I also reviewed the Monte at 1, 30, & 60 days.) I admit I utilized some different cigar flavor wheels and found them helpful. I surprised myself I was able to pick out distinct flavors, albeit with flavor-wheel guidance. I’m most amazed at how awful the cigars were after first receiving them and then still had mixed results at 30 days. Additionally surprised how much better the cigars were at 60 days.    
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@reverb what is a flavor wheel?


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On 10/14/2020 at 8:49 PM, Gorangutang said:

@reverb what is a flavor wheel?


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One of these https://www.famous-smoke.com/cigar-flavor-wheel

It's a list of flavours arranged in a circle, divided up by categories (sweet, savoury, vegetal, etc.) to help you name what you're tasting.

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