westg Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Tstew75 said: Waiting on @El Presidente to chime in ? Yep come on Rob. I had this discussion yesterday with some people . Didn't go well for me . Tell us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffDaddie Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I have only tried the E2S from El Laguito and they were great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I was hoping more folks would chime in here. I love talking about this lol Cuban factory lore is so damn intriguing, and part of what makes CCs so mysterious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 You’d think EL would have the best, most consistent rollers. If that’s the case, I’d want EL boxes to cut down on any duds. Same goes for distribution of quality tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 6:52 PM, Taco said: You’d think EL would have the best, most consistent rollers. If that’s the case, I’d want EL boxes to cut down on any duds. Same goes for distribution of quality tobacco. This is a whole other can of worms. Getting away with using rough, sub-par wrappers on ELs and also rolling at least 50% of them at provincial as opposed to mother factories. It's bewildering at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 @El Presidente ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamehawker Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Tstew75 said: @El Presidente ? Yup, it has been over a month since he started this thread. It is time now for what he said on his initial post: "I have my thoughts but I will jump in once this is kicked around for a while " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 While we're waiting I'll hedge my bets & continue to buy UAO/MAR boxes ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamehawker Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tstew75 said: While we're waiting I'll hedge my bets & continue to buy UAO/MAR boxes ? Sounds like a good idea. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroDan Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 12/3/2020 at 5:54 PM, TTP21 said: My disclaimer - Limited sample size for me. Construction and quality, zero difference. Flavor is where I have noticed a difference whereas the non-El Laguito are like D4 and Lusi but smooth as can be. The El Laguna are the opposite - incredibly strong and in need of some serious down time. At least I hope that's a cure for them to this point. I taste the potential for sure, but they're incredibly potent. I agree 100% with this. If you want to smoke now stay away from EL. It seems like a different blend? If you want to age go with EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Amo May 2016 box from host. So so disappointing. I revisited this box because of this thread. It’s been a while since I’ve had one. White pepper and nothing else. Horrible burn. Just one sampling but sad none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Smokin' Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 That's my experience with E2's. I know it is limited, having only smoked 10 or so in my time...but that isn't one I seek out to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Verulam Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Jimmy_jack said: Amo May 2016 box from host. So so disappointing. I revisited this box because of this thread. It’s been a while since I’ve had one. White pepper and nothing else. Horrible burn. Just one sampling but sad none the less. Honestly I do t think they were any good until 18 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djrey Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I'm curious, what blend seems to be stronger/better suitable for aging, E2 or P2? I have had P2's but haven't had E2 yet mostly because its not my ideal ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 21 hours ago, Jimmy_jack said: Amo May 2016 box from host. So so disappointing. I revisited this box because of this thread. It’s been a while since I’ve had one. White pepper and nothing else. Horrible burn. Just one sampling but sad none the less. It's worth noting 16s were pretty bad all around. Likely the worst year for CCs in that decade, IMO 6 hours ago, djrey said: I'm curious, what blend seems to be stronger/better suitable for aging, E2 or P2? I have had P2's but haven't had E2 yet mostly because its not my ideal ring. While you'd have to assume these 2 vitolas are the same blend, i sense they smoke different b/c of shape. For me P2s smoke a bit more powerfully & E2s seem to have an elegance about them. I'm with you, not a huge fan of the size, but every time I smoke one I'm so F'n happy. I'd venture to say E2 is a Top 10 CC, and worth seeking out when rolled at Partagas. Pure joy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I have only had one ten year plus aged P2, and it absolutely blew me away with power plus a wild explosion of flavor with what seemed like berries plus some other fruits (that may not actually exist ? ). I have a couple of boxes in deep storage--hoping for the best. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Tstew75 said: It's worth noting 16s were pretty bad all around. Likely the worst year for CCs in that decade, IMO ... for that which must not, cannot be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 23 hours ago, Fugu said: ... for that which must not, cannot be.... No comprehende ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamehawker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 1:41 PM, Gamehawker said: Yup, it has been over a month since he started this thread. It is time now for what he said on his initial post: "I have my thoughts but I will jump in once this is kicked around for a while " TTT Hey Pres, Are you ever going to jump in with your thoughts on this post that you created and you said that you would? It is time now for what he said on his initial post: "I have my thoughts but I will jump in once this is kicked around for a while " 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bords Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I have a bundle of cigars reported to be back door EL E2 as well as some 5 packs purchased in Havana (Libre). The banded/boxed versions (not EL) are completely forgettable, hot air for the first half and a hint of Partagas on the back end. The “Backdoor” E2 are some of the best cigars I have after only 2 years aging. Absolutely sublime and stand head to head with siglo 6 IMO. I give away the boxed/banded E2, wish I could source more of the unbanded. The leaf is top notch and the burn is a thing of beauty despite average looking wrappers.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamehawker Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:40 AM, Gamehawker said: TTT Hey Pres, Are you ever going to jump in with your thoughts on this post that you created and you said that you would? It is time now for what he said on his initial post: "I have my thoughts but I will jump in once this is kicked around for a while " Tap, tap tap Hey Pres, Are you ever going to give your thoughts on this thread like you said that you were going to on your initial post? I and like a lot of other people would appreciate your thoughts and insights. TIA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamehawker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 9:42 AM, Gamehawker said: Tap, tap tap Hey Pres, Are you ever going to give your thoughts on this thread like you said that you were going to on your initial post? I and like a lot of other people would appreciate your thoughts and insights. TIA TTT Hey Pres, Are you ever going to give your thoughts on this thread like you said that you were going to on your initial post? Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer31 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I bit on 2x 5 count boxes that were offered up as handpicked. Just received them other day and the look/feel/aroma is unbelievable. Going to be a challenge to hold off until spring when I can get warmer weather and can just enjoy without the chill. Looking forward to the reviews/exchanges until then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Thx for keeping this thread alive guys ? Long live UAO PSE2s ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgeybaby Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 12/4/2020 at 9:24 PM, PuroDiario said: To make an analogy, and risking getting some heat, for the most part I think factory codes are like looking at the numbers board by the roulette in a Casino...it does not change the odds of the game whatsoever no matter how much you look at it...more like you had one that you liked, you looked at the code and saw it was Laguito and said aha! Or you first looked at the code and were pre-conditioned to like it after seeing the code. I would bet if you smoke for about a year two E2s/day blindly of different years one cigar per factory code and you were asked to chose what you are smoking (Laguito vs No Laguito) you would end up with a binomial distribution...no different than tossing a coin for enough times (maybe we need you to smoke 4 a day instead of 2)... I very much like the cut of you gib. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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