Dano83 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Hello guys. I bought a box of these petit royales from a local guy in my area. Its one of those things where I didnt question where they came from because he seems respectable. Long story short...I am guessing they are not real. Everything looks legit but when I put the code in the habanos authenticity checker it comes up as 2009 R&J wide churchills. Its 000044413498. I guess I’m wondering if there is any chance these are real. Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Probably real. If you had bought Wide Churchill Gran Reserva and it verified as Petit Royales I'd be worried though Also check the micro-printed serial numbers on the warranty seal. There should be 2 or 3 of them. They should match the serial number. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroDan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 most likely cuba being cuba. Dont know why anyone would waste the time to fake that stick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Codes from 000044413230 to 000044413669 match as Wide Churchill gran reserva. That's 440 boxes. That could be: 10 mastercase of 44. 8 mastercases of 55. 5 mastercases of 88. I'm guessing 55. I'll check to see if that matches. If it does then it should be very surely someone chose the wrong drop down option when entering the serials into the database. Also this happened in the past: That thread gives: 000044726088 to 000044726408 as Wide Churchill gran reservas. 321 boxes. Could be 7 mastercases of 44 with 13 other boxes. I actually have 2 boxes of Petit Royales in this range myself: 000044726180 and 000044726204 I'd say they're real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was just going to say I recall a thread about codes being crossed for PR and WC before. Cuba being Cuba, shouldn't be a problem. Also, RyJ PR isn't going to be a cigar you're going to find a lot of fakes of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano83 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thank you so much guys. I was kind of thinking the same thing...why would anybody go through the trouble to fake these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 My math skills were slipping. We had 440 boxes in one range, and 321 in another. Turns out that a mastercase of Petit Royales is 40 boxes (1000 sticks). So that gives 11 mastercases for the first range and 8 for the second (with one box left over, but I could have been off by 1 in my count). So this does almost certainly point to an error in data entry or on the database backend of the verification system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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