El Presidente Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Great nostalgic read https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/the-magic-inside Where did the welcoming ambiance of old-car interiors go? April '21 By Terry McGean from April 2021 issue of Hemmings Classic Car A good friend of mine used to say that the interiors of some cars had a certain "ambiance," though he had a hard time conveying exactly what that was. In spite of his somewhat nebulous statement, I knew just what he meant, though I couldn't define it any more distinctly myself. It was simply a vibe—a subtle satisfactory sense that would be realized shortly after stepping inside and getting comfortable. It only happened with select vehicles, and the feeling wasn't necessarily the same from one to another. But there was definitely something there. My friend had first been moved to opine on the subject way back when we were both teenagers, cruising around in what were already "old" cars from the '60s and '70s. This was the mid-1980s, and, if memory serves, the car that urged him to make his proclamation was another friend's 1968 Thunderbird. It's become easy to forget, but for fans of the automobile, the dawning of the '80s had been a dark time. It was painfully clear that a golden age of the automobile, the one that kicked off shortly after WWII ended, had peaked in the '60s, and been stamped into something much less interesting as the '70s wore on. Much has been written on the strangling of horsepower thanks to emissions controls and the neutering of styling as a result of crash standards. But the insides of cars suffered as well. While the European automakers seemed to improve their interiors during the '70s, the trimmings inside many American cars became plasticky and less ornate during that same period, save for a burst of available wild colors and patterned upholstery early on (I'm envisioning some orange plaid right now). But as the '80s kicked in, interior styling got even more bland and colors narrowed mostly to blacks, tans, and grays, with the occasional maroon. When my buddy showed up with that '68 T-Bird, it seemed very much like an artifact from a time gone by… and we loved it. Our lot of muscle car worshipping gearhead teens might have turned our noses up at the four-door luxury barge. Instead, we were taken with the hideaway headlamps, those full-width taillamps with sequential turn signals, and the deep rumble from the 429 "Thunderjet" V-8, all of which seemed to draw straight from the muscle era. The unusual rear-hinged "suicide" rear doors had another interesting feature: part of the faux alligator skin roof covering extended to panels at the trailing portion of each door, making the rear sail panels appear larger and, along with the stylized landau bars, giving the car the look of a traditional limousine. The T-Bird's relatively small backlight also contributed to the effect. Once you climbed in through one of those weird back doors, it really did feel as though you'd stepped into a classic limo. The rear bench seat seemed like a broad sofa, and if you sat back into it comfortably, no one pulling alongside would be able to see you—very much as if you were being chauffeured in exclusivity. We weren't so interested in separating ourselves from the hoi polloi as we were in having our own little clubhouse on wheels. In this case, I'm talking about the kind of club Hugh Heffner might have hosted rather than something based in a treehouse. The plush upholstery, finely trimmed door panels, and soft lighting from the pillar-mounted lamps really did create an atmosphere. All that was missing was a humidor and some tumblers for sipping scotch. In the years to follow, there would be select other cars that could offer a similar experience— I'm recalling an early '70s Continental and a velour-trimmed Buick Electra among them. But that warm sense of ambiance my friend had once referred to wasn't always about pure luxury. I've felt a different version in some '60s four-door hardtops, in particular a '60 Olds 98, with its tiny roof pillars, low-back seats, and warmly multitoned cloth-and-vinyl upholstery. The openness of that car with all the windows down on a summer day was an experience unique to the big top-tier sedans of the late '50s and early '60s. Much smaller and more intimate coupes could sometimes conjure their own positive feelings, if the details were right. One friend once had a 1980 Camaro Z28 with a light saddle-colored interior highlighted by corded cloth upholstery inserts that made it feel as though you were being swaddled in a warm, inviting place; it was much different from the confining cold, dark, vinyl caves that were more typical of Camaros and Firebirds of the day. Another buddy had a '66 Mustang with bright red "pony" interior that made his coupe seem like an entirely different model than some other standard black-trimmed 'Stangs I'd sampled. Detroit has gotten better at creating inviting spaces for its cars these days—they're not all winners, but some get it sort of right. Still, I continue to peer into car cabins at shows and cruises to see what other vintage interiors might be worthy of sparking that old vibe again. Ambiance indeed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 Feel free to post up your own favourites. Personally.....I would pimp out a ride in purple velour tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 My favorite interiors were from late model Maserati Biturbo's in the Missoni cloth. Pinnacle of fabulous to me; even by today's aesthetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosgate Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 65 Lincoln Continental 1967 Corvette Stingray 427 1957 Chevy Bell Air 1975 Cadillac El Dorado 1961 Pontiac Bonniville 1930 Ford Model A-Always thought these were cool 1967 Jaguar XKE- Family friend had on of these. I thought it was a really cool car. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosgate Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I wonder how many members here had a shaggin wagon in the 1970's. My father had a few from 1980-2000 when they became "conversion" vans for trips when playing cards and drinking in a vehicle wasn't as heavily frowned upon as today. My god they were comfortable for long trips. http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/theGamingSled-820x4441.jpg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 hours ago, El Presidente said: Feel free to post up your own favourites. Personally.....I would pimp out a ride in purple velour tomorrow I will get you a matching purple velour suit (with zebra pattern liner), a big fedora with an ostrich feather, and a fancy walking stick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I have nostalgic images for a lot of things... but 60's and 70's car interiors ain't one of them. This is way better than anything I remember from the 60's and 70's... Metal dashboards, 3 on the tree.... once was enough for me! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigarrenziggy Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 What I wouldn’t give for an original gullwing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Fosgate said: I wonder how many members here had a shaggin wagon in the 1970's. My father had a few from 1980-2000 when they became "conversion" vans for trips when playing cards and drinking in a vehicle wasn't as heavily frowned upon as today. My god they were comfortable for long trips. Had similar style van in high school, but in blue shag. My parents bought it new and it was our family car until 1988. It was a '71 Dodge Sportsman in the same blue as below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibearsv Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I wouldn't call it ambience, but the interior of my Lincoln Mark VI certainly was inviting since you could invite the whole family. All the controls were like appliances, buttons everywhere. This photo is pretty close to what I had except for the missing speaker cover and mine had the addition of CB radio as part of the "Premium" sound system which also included the 8 track player. Kids loved riding in the back since there was a ton of buttons to play with back there too. That's genuine faux wood panels by the way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosgate Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Couple others. 1947 Woodie Wagon When I was a little kid my uncle had my all time favorite Street Rod. A 1932 Ford 3 window "Deuce" Coupe with a rumble sear. I loved riding to car shows with them in that rear outside seat. Similar to this but his was havily modified with a chop top, Hood removed with an Olds 440 Stroker engine with twin Holly 760 4barrel carbs sitting on top of a high rise manifold. Fenders removed with big fat Mickey Thompson tires on the back. I always thought the 32 Duece and 34 Ford that ZZ Top had were two of the coolest cars built to be a street rod in the first half of the century. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter4alia Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Chibearsv said: I wouldn't call it ambience, but the interior of my Lincoln Mark VI certainly was inviting since you could invite the whole family. All the controls were like appliances, buttons everywhere. This photo is pretty close to what I had except for the missing speaker cover and mine had the addition of CB radio as part of the "Premium" sound system which also included the 8 track player. Kids loved riding in the back since there was a ton of buttons to play with back there too. That's genuine faux wood panels by the way. Those old Lincolns were really something! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosgate Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 51 minutes ago, inter4alia said: Those old Lincolns were really something! For sure. I loved those mid 60's style. 70's they were battle ships. One of my uncles had a 75 Continental Mark IV. Cars of that size were impressive then. That reminds me of the Monte Carlos and Oldsmobile Hurst of the same year that had the swivle captains chairs. The olds also had the craziest Hurst Gearbox/Transmission for awhile too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter4alia Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fosgate said: For sure. I loved those mid 60's style. 70's they were battle ships. One of my uncles had a 75 Continental Mark IV. Cars of that size were impressive then. That reminds me of the Monte Carlos and Oldsmobile Hurst of the same year that had the swivle captains chairs. The olds also had the craziest Hurst Gearbox/Transmission for awhile too Oh yeah, the drag race style lightning rods shifters. Been a while since I saw one of those. Awesome! Loving this trip down memory lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fsonicsmith Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Ricardo Montalvan. "Welcome to a world of reeetchhh Columbian leather". This came out circa 1985 after he had just starred in "Star Trek Wrath of Khan" and was a pitch for a deluxe version of a Dodge K-car. My roommate and I used to laugh our arses off. Each time the commercial came on we would override the narration with "welcome to my f@#*pit of reeetchhh Columbian leather...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Fuzz said: I will get you a matching purple velour suit (with zebra pattern liner), a big fedora with an ostrich feather, and a fancy walking stick. Here are the Shoes... https://pleasershoes.com/products/pimp-02?variant=360126676997 https://img.17qq.com/images/cruuhqrwqhx.jpeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibearsv Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, Fosgate said: For sure. I loved those mid 60's style. 70's they were battle ships. One of my uncles had a 75 Continental Mark IV. Cars of that size were impressive then. That reminds me of the Monte Carlos and Oldsmobile Hurst of the same year that had the swivle captains chairs. The olds also had the craziest Hurst Gearbox/Transmission for awhile too Oh yeah. Who didn’t want the Hearst Olds back in the day. Very cool. Your post reminds me of the 76 gran prix with the console tilted toward the driver so it was a bit of a sideways pull. Made it feel like a cockpit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosgate Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Chibearsv said: Oh yeah. Who didn’t want the Hearst Olds back in the day. Very cool. Your post reminds me of the 76 gran prix with the console tilted toward the driver so it was a bit of a sideways pull. Made it feel like a cockpit Speaking of cockkpit. Anyone remember the Vector? Designed by a fighter pilot if I remember right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helix Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 21 hours ago, PigFish said: I have nostalgic images for a lot of things... but 60's and 70's car interiors ain't one of them. This is way better than anything I remember from the 60's and 70's... Metal dashboards, 3 on the tree.... once was enough for me! And survivable over 30 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter4alia Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Fosgate said: Speaking of cockkpit. Anyone remember the Vector? Designed by a fighter pilot if I remember right. Sure do. Damn that just screams 80's 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 22 hours ago, PigFish said: This is way better than anything I remember from the 60's and 70's... Metal dashboards, 3 on the tree.... once was enough for me! Yeah, I think if anyone from the 70s or 80s saw a Ferrari or Lamborghini interior today they would lose control of their bowels. 1987 Ferrari Testarossa interior: 2020 Ferrari F90 interior: On 3/16/2021 at 5:48 PM, El Presidente said: I must say, I think we could all appreciate driving in a La-Z-Boy recliner. That needs to make a comeback. On 3/16/2021 at 9:10 PM, Fosgate said: I just know the outside of this van looked like this: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Fsonicsmith said: Ricardo Montalvan. "Welcome to a world of reeetchhh Columbian leather". This came out circa 1985 after he had just starred in "Star Trek Wrath of Khan" and was a pitch for a deluxe version of a Dodge K-car. My roommate and I used to laugh our arses off. Each time the commercial came on we would override the narration with "welcome to my f@#*pit of reeetchhh Columbian leather...." Corinthian leather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosgate Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said: Corinthian leather Yup. Advertisement flashback. Now I need to go watch an episode of Fantasy Island. and the CORDOBA! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helix Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 HAHAHA I had one of those slugs. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hoze Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 For some reason whever I see an old interior like that with the metal and no airbags, etc. I think about how unforgiving it would be on your body in a really bad crash. Real optimist. LOL I’ve always hated all Ferrari interiors up until the brand new Roma. They went totally non-Ferrari with it, i.e. it is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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