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6 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing pushing the ELs into the kinds of packaging we saw for 2019. $150 more for lacquered boxes. And a foot band is bad enough, let alone a foot ribbon. Please. 

I think Opus X has jumped the shark. I remember when they were actually rare and one line. Now it seems every other Fuente is an Opus X...:thinking:

 

Agreed. It's all marketing now. It's crazy how guys hunt these down like crazy too. 

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8 minutes ago, yossie said:

Ayala seems to be forgotten about talisman and the original release of behike...

Not at all :D

People can charge what they like. The market determines success!

The Opus makes the RA 2019 LE look like a bargain. Who would have thought! 

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1 hour ago, Kaptain Karl said:

Agreed. It's all marketing now. It's crazy how guys hunt these down like crazy too. 

When I was over in Tampa visiting my mates at Cutter’s cigar, I caught the tail end of the owner (Alex, Cuba travel companion) talking to someone about how people call and request boxes of the Opus line before he receives the shipment. They somehow know exactly how many boxes of each line he is going to get before he himself knows. They sell out in a day. I suspect these will too...

 

50 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Not at all :D

People can charge what they like. The market determines success!

The Opus makes the RA 2019 LE look like a bargain. Who would have thought! 

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I still want one of those. Don’t even care about the cigars. Totally awesome box! 😀

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41 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing pushing the ELs into the kinds of packaging we saw for 2019. $150 more for lacquered boxes. And a foot band is bad enough, let alone a foot ribbon. Please. 

I think Opus X has jumped the shark. I remember when they were actually rare and one line. Now it seems every other Fuente is an Opus X...:thinking:

 

Was not impressed at all with the “Lost City”. Halfway through I lost it in the ditty bin. 

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I think HSA got their ideas from these guys. Or Ghurka.

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Lost City were crap!  Regular line of Opus for me please.  I won’t search for them but I will buy them when I see them.

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There's some good cigars in the opus line up, and the regular production stuff isn't to expensive, the LE stuff like the BBMF, The Bull, ect ect. count me out. their just going to taste like a $100 dollar cigar.

The biggest problem with opus is the up charge over MSRP, most would be an alright deal at MSRP but often are sold for 3-4 times what Fuente set out for them to cost.

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For you more experienced smokers of premium/exclusive NC, like the Opus series and Cuban equivalent maybe even a Talisman.

How is the taste experience for an Opus? I mean, are they from an objective perspective, great smokes, great tobacco and overall an exclusive cigar? (presuming good draw, setting aside costs, no construction issues, kept at right RH and Temp etc etc) 

Cheers

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39 minutes ago, Edicion said:

For you more experienced smokers of premium/exclusive NC, like the Opus series and Cuban equivalent maybe even a Talisman.

How is the taste experience for an Opus? I mean, are they from an objective perspective, great smokes, great tobacco and overall an exclusive cigar? (presuming good draw, setting aside costs, no construction issues, kept at right RH and Temp etc etc) 

Cheers

Back when I smoked a lot of these they were definitely a step or three above most offerings at the time. Used to hang out with the Fuente and Newman gang at their CFC events around the turn of the century where there would be many 'special' rolls. Even then, the cigars you could find at your local shop (if you could find them) were noticeably of a higher quality of blend and construction than most cigars made around that timeframe.

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I don't hate the Lost City, but don't love them either.  Angel's Share is a bust for me.  The anniversary was good.  I am a fan of regular Opus.  I won't hesitate to grab a couple of these if I see them.  The anejo 77 Shark and 888 are the best AF for me though.

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1 hour ago, therealrsr said:

The anejo 77 Shark and 888 are the best AF for me though.

I enjoy all of the Anejos--the Opus Xs have been just ok imho.

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5 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Not at all :D

People can charge what they like. The market determines success!

The Opus makes the RA 2019 LE look like a bargain. Who would have thought! 

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Those RAs are tasty little sticks.  Based on how they were ROTT I had to load up on them with more inbound.  Don’t care what the secondary will be as I intend to smoke these myself.  And the box is nice to look at.  Call me a fool but I think all the 2019s LEs are great cigars and great young. 

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14 hours ago, Kaptain Karl said:

It's crazy how guys hunt these down like crazy too. 

And most will never smoke what they "hunt down". Just for resale or showing off collections on Facebook. 

11 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Lost City were crap!  Regular line of Opus for me please.  I won’t search for them but I will buy them when I see them.

The Angel's Share IMO are the best ones with the traditional Opus in second. 

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The regular line and angel's share are enjoyable cigars. I like the larger regular line, they dont seem to be so overwhelmingly strong fresh. Those and natural Padron 26/64 are about the only NC I get excited about at this point. Pretty pricey for all of them though.

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47 minutes ago, billyh79 said:

Pretty pricey for all of them though.

Amen!

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6 hours ago, PigFish said:

Have little opinion on O-Piss!

Tabacuba, rather than emulate the quality of the cigar itself, decides to make a nicer box...! Once the world leader in cigars, now reduced to copying ex-pats to stay in business.

Give these people some of their land back and learn how to really make a cigar!!!

 

Cigars as a luxury item for rich people is really bad for promoting smoking and fostering the next generation of cigar enthusiasts. For the price of one of these rich-mans cigars, you can get high for a week, clear out the chip isle at Walmart for munchies, lure in someone from the opposite sex and get laid as well. If I were young again, I too would likely be smoking Grass, than Paragas!!!

-the Pig

As long as you're not luring someone in from the Walmart 😁

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22 hours ago, Edicion said:

For you more experienced smokers of premium/exclusive NC, like the Opus series and Cuban equivalent maybe even a Talisman.

How is the taste experience for an Opus? I mean, are they from an objective perspective, great smokes, great tobacco and overall an exclusive cigar? (presuming good draw, setting aside costs, no construction issues, kept at right RH and Temp etc etc) 

Cheers

Sample of one, FWIW these are my tasting notes from 2016:

 

Opus XXX Belicoso (3 years aging)

Cold draw unremarkable. Upon lighting toasted notes, some spice, mild coffee. Very simple, no complexity. Burning line is pretty bad, several touch ups needed. 

Draw is good. Smoke production good.

 

At the price point you can imagine why I never bought a second one...

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