Popular Post rcarlson Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 I'm at a loss. I'm a huge fan of nearly every vitola in the H. Upmann line up produced since 2018, so I couldn't wait to lay my hands on the Connie 2 after its release was announced. Did the Connie A need a Connie B? Absolutely. Does the Connie 1 need a Connie 2? Hell to the no. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would pay the premium for the Connie 2. I've had a number of them from different boxes and been thoroughly disappointed. Sure some of the flavors are okay, and the construction has been really good across the board. But for the most part, the Connie 2s are boring and lack the complexity of its siblings that tells me rest/aging isn't going to release some mojo. Anyone else hearing the Sad Trombone after smoking these? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StogieSteve23 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 A's and 1's are spot on. B's never did it for me. The 2 I smoked was OK but would take the A or 1 anyday over it. Perhaps in a few years it will come into its own. No real flavor progression or complexity for the price. It has a cool band though.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlson Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 Lol. It is a nice band though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 If it were great, would you be questioning whether it was needed? I'm hearing fairly similar things about it and I have a 6er on the way, but I agree, the price is way out of line unless this is a tremendous cigar which it appears it may not be. If the cigar is mediocre or worse then someone needs to get a kick in the nuts at HSA. Jamming in a bizarre vitola into an already saturated lineup with the worst cigar of the bunch at a high price? Big time fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Loving the Connie 2! I have had a dozen or so from a few boxes and am loving them. We did a deck tasting last Friday and to a man they were thoroughly enjoyed. They have gone straight into my regular rotation. Were they needed? Not really. I still don't think the Connie B was needed. Give it 6 months (only so more people get a chance to smoke them) and I reckon that if we do a poll this will be the result. 65% -75% "get it" 35%-25% "don't get it" I will bet a long lunch with you 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnS Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 I haven't had one yet, but no doubt I will probably acquire a quarter box, at some point. I honestly just appreciate this public forum in that friends can express diametric (i.e. as remote as possible, as if at the opposite end of a diameter; directly adverse) views on a matter and we can all benefit in our knowledge as a result. 👍 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlson Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, El Presidente said: I will bet a long lunch with you Careful. If compared to the price points for Connie 1 or Connie A, I'll take that bet. And a long lunch requires expensive liquor for men of refined tastes, such as myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, rcarlson said: Careful. If compared to the price points for Connie 1 or Connie A, I'll take that bet. And a long lunch requires expensive liquor for men of refined tastes, such as myself. I may not master much..........but I have a masters degree in long lunches 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: If it were great, would you be questioning whether it was needed? I'm hearing fairly similar things about it and I have a 6er on the way, but I agree, the price is way out of line unless this is a tremendous cigar which it appears it may not be. If the cigar is mediocre or worse then someone needs to get a kick in the nuts at HSA. Jamming in a bizarre vitola into an already saturated lineup with the worst cigar of the bunch at a high price? Big time fail. Now we all know why they did such a dumbarse move such as axe the Upmann petit corona. They needed the tobacco to "reinvest" into these $300+ boxes of newfangled Upmann releases. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zigarrenziggy Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, rcarlson said: Careful. If compared to the price points for Connie 1 or Connie A, I'll take that bet. And a long lunch requires expensive liquor for men of refined tastes, such as myself. We’ve been to lunch. Refined taste is a stretch 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlson Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, zigarrenziggy said: We’ve been to lunch. Refined taste is a stretch Well, that would depend on who's paying, ZZ. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 7 hours ago, NYgarman said: Now we all know why they did such a dumbarse move such as axe the Upmann petit corona. They needed the tobacco to "reinvest" into these $300+ boxes of newfangled Upmann releases. I think if they repurposed the PC leaf into the Connie 2 we wouldn't be having this conversation. 8 hours ago, JohnS said: I haven't had one yet, but no doubt I will probably acquire a quarter box, at some point. I honestly just appreciate this public forum in that friends can express diametric (i.e. as remote as possible, as if at the opposite end of a diameter; directly adverse) views on a matter and we can all benefit in our knowledge as a result. 👍 I don't recall seeing a 6er offered on them until this week so I went ahead purely for scientific purposes. I like enough HUs to take a shot. As is the case with the Connie B, the 2 would have to blow me away for me to buy a box at that price. Everything I've heard about it so far with Rob being the lone exception is oddly similar and not in a good way, but I prefer having low expectations going in. I was really hoping this was going to be an excellent cigar that would be priced smack dab between the A and the 1 around $275. At that price if they had done a slightly richer or fuller Connie A or 1 at 51 RG, they might have got a regular buyer out of me. Or how great would a SW-style blend be for the 2? Here's hoping it's not as bad as I'm picking up on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meklown Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: Everything I've heard about it so far with Rob being the lone exception is oddly similar and not in a good way, but I prefer having low expectations going in. pretty sure i've seen more than 1 person in previous posts saying that it is a decent smoke .. of course the notion of "value" depends heavily on the buyer and his assets and preferences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Meklown said: pretty sure i've seen more than 1 person in previous posts saying that it is a decent smoke .. of course the notion of "value" depends heavily on the buyer and his assets and preferences If by decent you mean very good, I haven't seen any of those opinions. Rob's assessment is by far the most glowing I've seen. I may have missed an opinion or two but not many people have actually smoked them yet. I'll look through some threads again but I would agree--"decent" is about as positive a description as I've seen so far. And almost all the descriptions mention it being light and on the blander side of flavor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meklown Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: If by decent you mean very good, I haven't seen any of those opinions. Rob's assessment is by far the most glowing I've seen. I may have missed an opinion or two but not many people have actually smoked them yet. I'll look through some threads again but I would agree--"decent" is about as positive a description I've seen so far. And almost all the descriptions mention it being light and on the blander side of flavor. I've managed to try one stick. Was it a good smoke? Yes. Was it overpriced? Yes. 😂 I wouldn't knock the flavour but most definitely the price. Here's hoping your scientific experiment is a success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Meklown said: I've managed to try one stick. Was it a good smoke? Yes. Was it overpriced? Yes. 😂 I wouldn't knock the flavour but most definitely the price. Here's hoping your scientific experiment is a success! Sounds... decent. At $14, if it's overpriced, that's not good at all if I may say so. I consider Connie 1 to be underpriced at $9. I only consider it experimental because I have low expectations going in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meklown Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, NSXCIGAR said: Sounds... decent. At $14, if it's overpriced, that's not good at all if I may say so. I consider Connie 1 to be underpriced at $9. Maybe because I am comparing to the (underpriced) con1 so I think that the 2 is overpriced. I would pay a similar price for both sticks, taking into account the 2 is larger. disclaimer is that I am a BIG fan of the con1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Meklown said: Maybe because I am comparing to the (underpriced) con1 so I think that the 2 is overpriced. I would pay a similar price for both sticks, taking into account the 2 is larger. disclaimer is that I am a BIG fan of the con1 Well, if it's better than the 1 in any way I'd be thrilled. That's not how I'm reading the feedback but we'll see I guess. I think the A is a slightly better overall than the 1 and it is quite a bit bigger but those are $12-13. So it's going to be competing with that. I'll also say that even though I think the A is a better cigar, my personal preference leans toward the 1. There's just something about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meklown Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, NSXCIGAR said: I'll also say that even though I think the A is a better cigar, my personal preference leans toward the 1. There's just something about them. the A falls in the "don't get it" category for me. idk? I'm just weird that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Meklown said: the A falls in the "don't get it" category for me. idk? I'm just weird that way. I would say that describes the B for me. Despite the stupid price I really don't know what the deal is with it. Same with the Mag 54. Not sure what they're trying to do with it. The A is just very refined. Almost too refined for me. I would say the same thing about the Trini La Trova. It is very smooth and ultra-refined. I would probably take an Esmeralda or Topes over it just like I would probably take the Connie 1 over the A most days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meklown Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, NSXCIGAR said: I would say that describes the B for me. Despite the stupid price I really don't know what the deal is with it. Same with the Mag 54. Not sure what they're trying to do with it. The A is just very refined. Almost too refined for me. I would say the same thing about the Trini La Trova. It is very smooth and ultra-refined. I would probably take an Esmeralda or Topes over it just like I would probably take the Connie 1 over the A most days. I don't get the B too .. mag54 I've liked the 1 or 2 sticks that I've had but for whatever reason have never had more. (strange, since I liked those I've tried). Maybe my pleb palate cannot appreciate the A nor B. On the other hand I love all the current prod Trinis, and in fact think that they are underpriced as well. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Half Full Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I personally haven't had a Connie 2 (and the only Connie A's I've had came from what I believe must be a bad box; consistently plugged; and sadly I've got a bunch left ...But in case Rob needs another vote in his corner, HalfWheel sure liked the 2's: https://halfwheel.com/h-upmann-connossieur-no-2/392457/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 7 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: I would say that describes the B for me. Despite the stupid price I really don't know what the deal is with it. Same with the Mag 54. Not sure what they're trying to do with it. The A is just very refined. Almost too refined for me. I would say the same thing about the Trini La Trova. It is very smooth and ultra-refined. I would probably take an Esmeralda or Topes over it just like I would probably take the Connie 1 over the A most days. Yeah I think I like that refined taste. Only Upmanns I really like are Connie A and Sir Winstons. Though I feel like I need to revisit some of them again and check out the 2 and B too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigmundChurchill Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The 2 that I smoked were okay, but nothing to write home about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Dunno or care until the prices come down to around 3 hundy Always a sound strategy with new sticks...let the dust settle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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