Is it okay to burn the cigar right away without stabilization?

[Papago]

hi

Is it okay to burn the cigar ordered by FOH right away? Or do I need to stabilize it further? Then how long would be appropriate? 30 days? 60 days? 90 days?

[Nevrknow]

Go for it. You’ll get 4 different answers and it all boils down to what YOU like. I’ll burn one ROTT, then 60 then 90, then the rest go to sleep for awhile. To each his own. As I said, there are many answers and they are all correct. Kapesh?

[Fuzz]

Depends on who you ask. Some will say smoke one right off the truck, others will say wait 30/60/90 days. It really comes down to personal preference.

The question is, have you done either? What do you normally do? Have you tried waiting 30 days, as opposed to smoking ROTT, and vice versa? What worked out better for you?

[Mickey D]

Welcome to FOH. Stick around, read past posts and observe. Many of your questions will be answered. 
enjoy.

[LLC]

If you feel like having one right away go for it. I think you’ll find with 60 or 90 days they will be better. Not always but usually. 

[Bri Fi]

If it’s a box of 25... ROTT/30/60/90. If they are good at any point I keep smoking until I think they need rest. If it’s a box of 10/12 then I wait the full 90 

[NSXCIGAR]

Only need to wait if they taste sub-optimal right off the truck.

[Meesterjojo]

I think the folks here conducted a little experiment on this subject not long ago and found their newly received cigars smoked better the longer they kept them. 

Regardless, my last FOH order, which I received in 2 weeks, came in perfect condition. Being that I haven't stepped in a b&m in decades, these were the best I've had delivered (even considered previous FOH orders) and had no issues lighting up. Especially since the punch short de punch were from 2019.

Light em up! 

[El Presidente]

Nothing wrong with lighting one up ROTT!!!

Plenty wrong on forming a firm opinion on that cigar based on that tasting. Well...thats unless the opinion is that you should have given it another 29 days 😁

[SmokyFontaine]

I've yet to have a cigar ROTT that was better than one 90 days after receipt. I wanted to stubbornly believe everyone else was wrong and I'd be right...but...90 days rest for me. I wasted too many cigars through lack of willpower. 

[Tdm_86]

Like everything that was said before. You will need to find out what works for you. I have the luxury of having enough stock, that most boxes I buy now get put away for a few years. This is also because, over the years, I’ve mostly figured out what I like and don’t like. If you don’t have smoking stock yet, you’ll have to try what you like. If it’s something I haven’t had before, I do sample ROTT because I don’t have an aged or rested example available. Then taste again after 30/60/90 days. Sometimes they’re great immediately, sometimes they need rest and sometimes they’re just shit regardless of age/rest. 

Fickle things they are. 

[Papago]

5 hours ago, Nevrknow said:

그래서 더. 당신은 당신이 좋아하는 4명의 승리를 차지하게 됩니다. ROTT 1개를 태우고 다음 60개, 90개를 기대하세요. 자기에게. 이 말을 해주었어요. 카페시?

I'll try to burn a stick every 30/60/90 days!
Thank you.

 

5 hours ago, Fuzz said:

Depends on who you ask. Some will say smoke one right off the truck, others will say wait 30/60/90 days. It really comes down to personal preference.

The question is, have you done either? What do you normally do? Have you tried waiting 30 days, as opposed to smoking ROTT, and vice versa? What worked out better for you?

I haven't burned a stick every 30/60/90 days yet, and I'm waiting for 90 days.
From now on, I'll have to experiment by burning a stick every 30/60/90 days!
Thank you.

 

4 hours ago, Mickey D said:

Welcome to FOH. Stick around, read past posts and observe. Many of your questions will be answered. 
enjoy.

I am using a translator because I am not good at English. As a result, I am still lacking in English search skills, so I am writing a post. Thank you for your reply!

 

4 hours ago, LLC said:

당장 갖고 싶은 생각이 든다면 바로 가세요. 60일이나 90일이 지나면 더 나아질 것이라고 생각합니다. 항상은 아니지만 일반적으로. 

Thank you for your answer.

 

4 hours ago, Bri Fi said:

If it’s a box of 25... ROTT/30/60/90. If they are good at any point I keep smoking until I think they need rest. If it’s a box of 10/12 then I wait the full 90 

Since it's not box of 25, I'm waiting for 90 days. I asked because I was curious about the thoughts of FOH members.
Thank you.

 

4 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Only need to wait if they taste sub-optimal right off the truck.

Ok.
Thank you for your reply.

 

4 hours ago, Meesterjojo said:

I think the folks here conducted a little experiment on this subject not long ago and found their newly received cigars smoked better the longer they kept them. 

Regardless, my last FOH order, which I received in 2 weeks, came in perfect condition. Being that I haven't stepped in a b&m in decades, these were the best I've had delivered (even considered previous FOH orders) and had no issues lighting up. Especially since the punch short de punch were from 2019.

Light em up! 

Oh!
Thank you for your answer.

 

3 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Nothing wrong with lighting one up ROTT!!!

Plenty wrong on forming a firm opinion on that cigar based on that tasting. Well...thats unless the opinion is that you should have given it another 29 days 😁

Your reply will help us burn the cigar we received in the future.
Thank you.

 

2 hours ago, SmokyFontaine said:

나는 아직 수령 후 90일 후보다 더 나은 시가 ROTT를 가지고 있지 않습니다. 남들은 다 틀리고 나도 옳다고 굳게 믿고 싶었지만... 90일의 휴식. 의지 부족으로 시가를 너무 많이 낭비했습니다. 

That's right.
I think it's very hard to wait for a 90day break.
I, too, burned the cigars in the middle of a 90day wait...

 

1 hour ago, Tdm_86 said:

Like everything that was said before. You will need to find out what works for you. I have the luxury of having enough stock, that most boxes I buy now get put away for a few years. This is also because, over the years, I’ve mostly figured out what I like and don’t like. If you don’t have smoking stock yet, you’ll have to try what you like. If it’s something I haven’t had before, I do sample ROTT because I don’t have an aged or rested example available. Then taste again after 30/60/90 days. Sometimes they’re great immediately, sometimes they need rest and sometimes they’re just shit regardless of age/rest. 

Fickle things they are. 

I very much agree with the term capricious.^^
As you said, I should try ROTT for CC which is kept in small quantities.
Your reply will be of great help!

[Connoisseur Kim]

I myself tried ROTT once with H. Upmann Anejados Robustos before, but it had too much of bitterness with one dimensional flavor profile as well as wonky burn. So, I've always let 24:24 CCs have a nap for minimum 90 days in order to puff'em at their best.

Here's the FOHrensics : 60 Day Transition Thread: Evolution of R&J Churchills and Monte 2 post, which was ROTT vs Resting Period experiment done a year ago. Hope that this post will help you to seek the answer 😃

 

[Papago]

16 minutes ago, Connoisseur Kim said:

저도 전에 H. Upmann Anejados Robustos와 함께 ROTT를 한 번 시도했지만, 1차원적인 풍미 프로파일과 퍽퍽한 화상으로 쓴맛이 너무 강했습니다. 그래서 저는 항상 24:24 CC가 최상의 컨디션을 유지하기 위해 최소 90일 동안 낮잠을 자도록 했습니다.

FOHrensics: 60 Day Transition Thread: Evolution of R&J Churchills and Monte 2 게시물은 1년 전에 ROTT vs Resting Period 실험이었습니다. 이 포스팅이 답을 찾는데 도움이  되길 바랍니다 😃

 

Thank you so much for tagging the post related to the experiment. That would be a lot of help!

[Connoisseur Kim]

Just now, Papago said:

Thank you so much for tagging the post related to the experiment. That would be a lot of help!

Sure thing! Please let us know when you have a doubt 😄

[Chas.Alpha]

I leave them down for 30 days, but only because I’m lazy and superstitious...

[DanWil84]

Go for it, I haven't got the best experiences with it, but you'll never know if you don't try. The shop I buy stores them at a high rh to my liking for CC, a month at my preferred rh is setting them down nicely.

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[Hammer Smokin']

They cost too much to gamble rott.

90 days minimum.

Preferably 6 months to a year for the 1st.

[Papago]

6 hours ago, Chas.Alpha said:

30일동안 놔두는데 게으르고 미신이라서...

That's right. It's very difficult to wait for more than 30 days while having a good CC days.

 

1 hour ago, DanWil84 said:

해봐, 나는 그것에 대한 최고의 경험을 얻지 못했지만 시도하지 않으면 결코 알지 못할 것입니다. 내가 사는 상점은 CC에 대한 내 취향에 따라 높은 rh에 저장하고 내가 선호하는 rh에서 한 달 동안 멋지게 설정합니다.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn VOG-L29가 Tapatalk를 만났습니다.
 

Thank you. I'll give it a try.

 

1 hour ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

도박을 하기에는 너무 많은 비용이 듭니다.

최소 90일.

1순위는 6개월에서 1년이 좋습니다.

It is true that it costs a lot.
So I'm thinking of having a good time regardless of this.

Thank you.

[BrightonCorgi]

Cigars are for pleasure.  If you like smoking the cigar ROTT; nothing wrong with that.  Many on this forum have enough cigars where they can show some restraint when they get a new box, but that's not 100% the time.

[Nino]

1 hour ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Cigars are for pleasure.  If you like smoking the cigar ROTT; nothing wrong with that.  Many on this forum have enough cigars where they can show some restraint when they get a new box, but that's not 100% the time.

And cigars are sturdy - they have been rolled with raw material 3 years old or older.

It is NOT rocket science or brain surgery where a junior gets to do scary things and might fail - it is tobacco leaves rolled & ready to be smoked.

Never had an issue smoking ROTT.

[PigFish]

On 7/14/2021 at 8:20 PM, El Presidente said:

Nothing wrong with lighting one up ROTT!!!

Plenty wrong on forming a firm opinion on that cigar based on that tasting. Well...thats unless the opinion is that you should have given it another 29 days 😁

I think this pretty much says it all.

There are likely thousands of years of smoking experience on this forum. Only yours really matters to you. A life of smoking is experienced first hand, not via proxy.

Yes, I think there is something to be said for collective wisdom. But please remember, you are your own expert. The only way you will become proficient and comfortable with your own practices, is to practice them!

Enjoy your journey. Welcome to the forum. Share your experiences and be known.

Some of us believe that the taste of cigar is a matter of age. Some think it is more water content and consistency of water in the tobacco. Of all the posts above, I think @Elpresidente is really the most accurate. Smoke the cigar, but what you do with the data is what is really important. Understand you have tried one cigar and that is only one small part of your smoking experience. Live, and try, listen and decipher, experiment and learn. There are no real shortcuts. And... why would you take them?

Cheers! -Piggy

[Chas.Alpha]

I would add this: Got a 10 ct. box of Media Luna off of clearance a couple of weeks ago. The wrappers seemed somewhat veiny and just not appealing. 2 weeks down in my humi cab, smoothing out and almost attractive. Let’s see what another month brings...

 

9 hours ago, PigFish said:

I think this pretty much...

Don’t listen to him! He’s a swine!!!

Sorry, Pig. My favorite line from “A Hard Day’s Night...”

[PigFish]

1 hour ago, Chas.Alpha said:

I would add this: Got a 10 ct. box of Media Luna off of clearance a couple of weeks ago. The wrappers seemed somewhat veiny and just not appealing. 2 weeks down in my humi cab, smoothing out and almost attractive. Let’s see what another month brings...

 

Don’t listen to him! He’s a swine!!!

Sorry, Pig. My favorite line from “A Hard Day’s Night...”

Been called worse by better people 

-LOL

-the pig

[PigFish]

… just don’t call me a bore!

God I love puns!!!