rodrigodeanda Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Nino said: Make that 4 days at minus 20C to be on the safe side, and do it with all other cigars you bought from that B&M, not just with the "hole" one ... Yeah, that's a good idea, definitely will do that. Thanks for the suggestion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smbauerllc Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Almost sorry I started this discussion, as you all are making me nervous about never freezing my cigars.Guess I have just been really lucky in 15 years and untold many cigars, that I have never had a problem. Odds are that eventually that luck will run out.Problem is that I share a refrigerator and freezer with about 7 other people here at the veteran's home, so there is little available space, and I highly doubt that the freezer goes anywhere near minus 20 Celsius. Thankfully the facility is very well climate controlled, and my room has its own heating and air conditioning with its own thermostat, so my temperature never gets above about 68deg, which should help Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigar Salute Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I had a box of RASCC come from a popular Swiss vendor with live beetles in the bottom layer of cigars. As others have said, just because boxes are frozen at export doesn't mean they can't become infested somewhere else in the chain of custody. If beetles are hatching after cigars are being freeze-treated at home, then that person didn't freeze them for a long enough time, or they are storing treated cigars with un-treated cigars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoonerCity Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 No tobacco beetles but I just recently discovered wood mites in two recently acquired boxes of Monte 2s. Caused a mini heart attack until I realized they were wood mites and not tobacco beetles. 1 day in the fridge, 2 days in the freezer, and then 1 day in the fridge again seems to have taken care of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigcars Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 3:59 AM, Nino said: I can help you out ... *The fowl creatures Rats of the tobacco world... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroDiario Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I know for a fact all gets officially into Spain has been frozen. I am also in the camp of having not seen a beetle, but that’s not statistically significant and before 2005 (to reference Prez’s point in time) I was just stealing off my grandad’s and my father’s humis… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggtimer Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Does anyone have the proper instructions for freezing please? (Zip lock? Individually/together? Freeze whole humidor or how do we prevent the hunidors itself from spreading the beetles?) Etc And does it damage the cigars? Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergstrom Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 So far nothin on my end, tho I do keep everything at 62-63rh and 65 farenheight. I also out of paranoia have a special tupperdor to store all my MINSAP boxes separate from the main flock. literally have had nightmares about this before tho 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas.Alpha Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 This is like where parents tell their children " There's no monster under your bed" but they're lying...😳 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinoww Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 hours ago, eggtimer said: Does anyone have the proper instructions for freezing please? (Zip lock? Individually/together? Freeze whole humidor or how do we prevent the hunidors itself from spreading the beetles?) Etc And does it damage the cigars? Thanks so much! There is a popular gray market seller that had an issue last summer with beetles. I’m not buying much but have started to freeze everything I get. It’s easy insurance given the oddities of Cuba and supply chain from vendors that are not directly licensed by HSA. Google or the search option here can give you more details, but simple approach is to put your box in a ziploc in the fridge for about 12 hours. (The larvae could be on the box if they are on a wrapper) Then to your freezer for a minimum of 24 but a few days longer is fine. A quick tour of The fridge to warm up and you are done. Lots of info out there on the temps and time needed to kill the bugs at their various stages. I know my freezer hits 0f. 24 hours is plenty for me. But I usually go 48, especially with farm rolls. given current investor prices, it makes sense to me now. I never used to freeze. I do now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bpegler11 Posted January 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2023 If you’re interested, here’s the science behind freezing times to kill tobacco beetles.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebarnes Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Maybe I am super ignorant here, but how long can an egg survive? Do they lay dormant and hatch years later if the temp is right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rhinoww Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 22 hours ago, bpegler11 said: If you’re interested, here’s the science behind freezing times to kill tobacco beetles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This. And yes, like the monster under your bed they can lie dormant for a very long time and then come out when the temp and humidity are high enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 hours ago, Rhinoww said: This. And yes, like the monster under your bed they can lie dormant for a very long time and then come out when the temp and humidity are high enough. I'm having a hard time finding how long the beetles themselves can survive while dormant. I do see some references to the eggs surviving for "many months" while dormant. Basically if you always keep your temps below 66°F the eggs at least should remain dormant until they die within a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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