griller Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, njpinette said: Nothing Cohiba, Bolivar or Partagas This for me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibearsv Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Lusitania Sir Winston Esplendido Not because of price but rather because I'd be reluctant to give any cigar that takes over 90 minutes to smoke to a CC beginner. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 To give a new smoker any of the following is a travesty. As I know either of these will be lucky to survive past the halfway point. Noobs get some kind of PC (minus SIglo II). Cohiba Esplendido. HU Sir Winston BHK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibearsv Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 hours ago, El Presidente said: That's why you have no friends more than likely. I am happy to share the love with Limited Edition FOH cigar stands to 3 posters! Perhaps you and Ken could autograph those stands to make them Limited Edition? That would be pretty cool although they'd probably go right to ebay 🤑🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyBoulevard Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 JL1 JL2 RyJ Cazadores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btort910 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 No Cohibas, Bolis or Cazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhalischuk Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 BBF, JL2, Lusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfica_77 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 BBF RyJ Cazzie Party 898 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryK 54 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Top three not to give to a newbie: BRC RASS PSD4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadegari6 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 RyJ Cazadores BBF Lusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDGSN Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Are we talking cigars to avoid because of flavor differences to NC or to avoid because of strength? NCs went through a love affair with ligero so I’m not sure new-to-Cubans needs to be worried about strength if the person smoked NCs. In that case, you might want to avoid flavors that are far apart from NCs, but I always like to give someone new to Cubans something with the Cuban twang. Give JL1 Party Short PLMC Not Give BRC Monte 4 RG Perla If new to cigars and Cubans, I might go with: Give QDO 50 Fonseca No. 1 SLR Regio Not Give BBF Party 898 RyJ Cazadores 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailbait Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Nothing Cohiba because I refuse to kowtow to the perceived hype or for someone doing it for “the gram” No Robaina. Doesn’t feel like a “typical” Cuban. No Upmann 46. For whatever reason I find that new smokers gravitate towards the Upmanns. The 46 isn’t typical to the marca so I probably wouldn’t want to disabuse them of their notions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin865 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 If those new to cigars are women, I would go with a mild, like any thing Foncesca or Montecristo Open Junior. I call those, Cubans on training wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigar Surgeon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I think many of the responses show the lack of understanding of the NC market. If the person is an NC smoker you have no idea whether all they smoke is Connecticut Shade, at which point they may find a large swath of Cubans to be significantly stronger than what they're used to. On the flip side they absolutely could be smoking My Father or Espinosa pepper bombs, at which point subtle and nuanced Cuban options might be lost on them. There is a very, very large range of flavor profiles and despite the association of 'pepper bombs' with NCs, strong peppery NCs represent a very small portion of the market, and mild and creamy Connecticut Shades represent the largest portion of the market. With all of that said: Going in blindly I'd be avoiding the top and bottom and middle. So no Cohiba, no Vegueros , no Ramon Allones. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshot Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Sir Winston Cohiba Siglo VI BBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drguano Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 A better way to put this would be to ask what cigars you would give to someone new to Cuban cigars. I would not give a long cigar or a rich/strong cigar. I would not give an Upmann No.2 but perhaps a Diplomaticos No2. I would not give a Bolivar Royal Corona but I would give a Hoyo de Monterrey No.2. I would not give a Cohiba Secreto but I would give a Partagas Short 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevrknow Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Sig VI Fundi Esplendidos edit: misread it 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduin Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 For someone new to CCs I would avoid long and skinnies so - PLMC - Cohiba Especiales - Cohiba Lanceros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanakaa1515 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 RA Gigantes BBF Fundadores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigaraholic Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Guantanamera La Flor De Cano Vegueros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raskol Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Fundi PLPC Lusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAnubis Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 17 hours ago, El Presidente said: Generally it's people with friends and under that age of 65 who use it. Your excused. A twenty-dollar note is called a "lobster" because of its red colour. A fifty-dollar note is also known colloquially as a "pineapple" or the "Big Pineapple" because of its yellow colour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang_terms_for_money Say what? I thought a 20 was a watermelon? I say this cos there's a notion of "give the new guy the shit cigars cos if they dont like it then its ok if they bin it". I would NOT do that, so i would not give them Quinteros, JLP, Guantanamera. Sure these can be appreciated for what they are by smokers, but if you are having your first cigar you want to be wowed by it and get into it, not smoke floor sweepings and be disapointed. A new smoker i WOULD give them HUHC, Bolivar Petite Corona, Partagas Short. If they are a cigar smoker, but never tried a cuban and i know they would smoke a full cigar, it would be Punch Punch, BBF, or Bolivar Petite Corona. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBirdman Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 No one has said Monte A yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westg Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, LordAnubis said: Say what? I thought a 20 was a watermelon? I say this cos there's a notion of "give the new guy the shit cigars cos if they dont like it then its ok if they bin it". I would NOT do that, so i would not give them Quinteros, JLP, Guantanamera. Sure these can be appreciated for what they are by smokers, but if you are having your first cigar you want to be wowed by it and get into it, not smoke floor sweepings and be disapointed. A new smoker i WOULD give them HUHC, Bolivar Petite Corona, Partagas Short. If they are a cigar smoker, but never tried a cuban and i know they would smoke a full cigar, it would be Punch Punch, BBF, or Bolivar Petite Corona. Yep watermelon as well...$100 notes are called Don Bradmans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVan Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Boli period - BBF, BRC or tubos #1 (unless they tell me they like full NC's) SP Beli or SPNP - an acquired taste and very hard to come by - probably wouldn't appreciate them. HUP Mag 46 although I might offer a Mag 50 if they had time. Other than those I'd walk them through anything else smoking well and let them pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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