Guitar Rock Classics

[mailman]

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» Honorable mention to Steve Hackett also.

i agree 100 %. old genesis kicks a$$:-D

[El Rushbo]

I have to admist, I studied Jazz in college, and have been laying to about 15 years...but I do have a favorite, especially among contemporary rock guitarists...

Haven't seen the name Mark Knopfler come up yet. I know, I know...yeah, teh Money for Nothing guy...I went to Northern Virginia last summer and heard him at the Filene Center at Wolftap (great venue). It was some of the most articulate, gifted, and well structured solo giutar I've heard. At times, noting short of virtuosic. Stylistically, not always my favorite material, but on talent alone...wow...;-)

[GoSteelers]

Yes Mark Knopfler is a favorite the old Dire Straits stuff was great too!

Anybody remember Triumph (Magic Power, Lay It On The Line)? Rick Emmit was a guitar GOD when I saw him few times in the early 80s.

Great guitar album, and this sounds cheezy but Endless Summer II" soundtrack is some kick ass instrumentals, guy named Gary Hoey.

[link]www.garyhoey.com[/link]

Some really good stuff on there,(Low Rider, Linus and Lucy) I think all of his discs are instrumental except for his latest where he takes up some decent vocals too.

ROCK ON!

[bassman]

No one mentioned Robert Fripp?

And how about John McLaughlin in his Mahavishnu Orchestra days?

[wp2]

» Came across an old favourite yesterday in Frank Zappa's "My Guitar wants to

» kill your mama".

» I miss great guitar tunes. Anyone else here love great guitar?

» What are your favourite rock guitar "greats" ?

Any Hendrix & Gilmour.

Jerry Garcia.

[GoSteelers]

Adrian Belew

[GoSteelers]

» Came across an old favourite yesterday in Frank Zappa's "My Guitar wants to

» kill your mama".

» I miss great guitar tunes. Anyone else here love great guitar?

» What are your favourite rock guitar "greats" ?

Zappa was a favorite of mine too Pres!

May Tipper Gore burn in hell for the curse she put on Frank!

[El Presidente]

» » Came across an old favourite yesterday in Frank Zappa's "My Guitar wants

» to

» » kill your mama".

» » I miss great guitar tunes. Anyone else here love great guitar?

» » What are your favourite rock guitar "greats" ?

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» Zappa was a favorite of mine too Pres!

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» May Tipper Gore burn in hell for the curse she put on Frank!

Zappa's statement at the senate hearings regarding Music lyrics and various efforts to control content (led by Tipper Gore) was a classic and should be compulsory reading to all children in school in relation to protection of freedoms.

It is a long read.

Mr. ZAPPA. My name is Frank Zappa. This is my attorney Larry Stein.

The statement that I prepared, that I sent you 100 copies of, is five pages long, so I have shortened it down and am going to read a condensed version of it.

Certain things have happened. I have been listening to the event in the other room and have heard some conflicting reports as to whether or not people in this committee want legislation. I understand that Mr. Hollings does from his comments. Is that correct?

The CHAIRMAN. I think you had better concentrate on your testimony, rather than asking questions.

Mr. ZAPPA. The reason I need to ask it, because I have to change something in my testimony if there is not a clearcut version of whether or not legislation is what is being discussed here.

The CHAIRMAN. Do the best you can, because I do not think anybody here can characterize Senator Hollings' position.

Mr. ZAPPA. I will carry on with the issue, then.

Senator EXON. Mr. Chairman, I might help him out just a little bit. I might make a statement. This is one Senator that might be interested in legislation and/or regulation to some extent, recognizing the problems with the right of free expression.

I have previously expressed views that I do not believe I should be telling other people what they have to listen to. I really believe that the suggestion made by the original panel was some kind of an arrangement for voluntarily policing this in the music industry as the correct way to go.

If it will help you out in your testimony, I might join Senator Hollings or others in some kind of legislation and/or regulation, unless the free enterprise system, both the producers and you as the performers, see fit to clean up your act.

Mr. ZAPPA. OK, thank you.

The first thing I would like to do, because I know there is some foreign press involved here and they might not understand what the issue is about, one of the things the issue is about is the First Amendment to the Constitution, and it is short and I would like to read it so they will understand. It says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That is for reference.

These are my personal observations and opinions. I speak on behalf of no group or professional organization.

The PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design.

It is my understanding that in law First Amendment issues are decided with a preference for the least restrictive alternative. In this context, the PMRC demands are the equivalent of treating dandruff by decapitation.

No one has forced Mrs. Baker or Mrs. Gore to bring Prince or Sheena Easton into their homes. Thanks to the Constitution, they are free to buy other forms of music for their children. Apparently, they insist on purchasing the works of contemporary recording artists in order to support a personal illusion of aerobic sophistication. Ladies, please be advised: The $8.98 purchase price does not entitle you to a kiss on the foot from the composer or performer in exchange for a spin on the family Victrola.

Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of toilet training program to house-break all composers and performers because of the lyrics of a few. Ladies, how dare you?

The ladies' shame must be shared by the bosses at the major labels who, through the RIAA, chose to bargain away the rights of composers, performers, and retailers in order to pass H.R. 2911, The Blank Tape Tax, a private tax levied by an industry on consumers for the benefit of a select group within that industry.

Is this a consumer issue? You bet it is. The major record labels need to have H.R. 2911 whiz through a few committees before anybody smells a rat. One of them is chaired by Senator Thurmond. Is it a coincidence that Mrs. Thurmond is affiliated with the PMRC?

I cannot say she is a member, because the PMRC has no members. Their secretary told me on the phone last Friday that the PMRC has no members, only founders. I asked how many other District of Columbia wives are nonmembers of an organization that raises money by mail, has a tax-exempt status, and seems intent on running the Constitution of the United States through the family paper-shredder. I asked her if it was a cult. Finally, she said she could not give me an answer and that she had to call their lawyer.

While the wife of the Secretary of the Treasury recites "Gonna drive my love inside you" and Senator Gore's wife talks about "bondage" and "oral sex at gunpoint" on the CBS Evening News, people in high places work on a tax bill that is so ridiculous, the only way to sneak it through is to keep the public's mind on something else: Porn rock.

Is the basic issue morality? Is it mental health? Is it an issue at all? The PMRC has created a lot of confusion with improper comparisons between song lyrics, videos, record packaging, radio broadcasting, and live performances. These are all different mediums and the people who work in them have the right to conduct their business without trade-restraining legislation, whipped up like an instant pudding by "The wives of Big Brother."

Is it proper that the husband of a PMRC nonmember / founder / person sits on any committee considering business pertaining to the blank tape tax or his wife's lobbying organization? Can any committee thus constituted find facts in a fair and unbiased manner? This committee has three that we know about: Senator Danforth, Senator Packwood, and Senator Gore. For some reason, they seem to feel there is no conflict of interest involved.

Children in the vulnerable age bracket have a natural love for music. If as a parent you believe they should be exposed to something more uplifting than "Sugar Walls," support music appreciation programs in schools. Why have you not considered your child's need for consumer information? Music appreciation costs very little . . .

. . compared to sports expenditures. Your children have a right to know that something besides pop music exists.

lt is unfortunate that the PMRC would rather dispense governmentally sanitized heavy metal music than something more uplifting. Is this an indication of PMRC's personal taste or just another manifestation of the low priority this administration has placed on education for the arts in America?

The answer, of course, is neither. You cannot distract people from thinking about an unfair tax by talking about music appreciation. For that you need sex, and lots of it.

The establishment of a rating system, voluntary or otherwise, opens the door to an endless parade of moral quality control programs based on things certain Christians do not like. What if the next bunch of Washington wives demands a large yellow "J" on all material written or performed by Jews, in order to save helpless children from exposure to concealed Zionist doctrine?

Record ratings are frequently compared to film ratings. Apart from the quantitative difference, there is another that is more important: People who act in films are hired to pretend. No matter how the film is rated, it will not hurt them personally.

Since many musicians write and perform their own material and stand by it as their art, whether you like it or not, an imposed rating will stigmatize them as individuals. How long before composers and performers are told to wear a festive little PMRC arm band with their scarlet letter on it?

Bad facts make bad law, and people who write bad laws are in my opinion more dangerous than songwriters who celebrate sexuality. Freedom of speech, freedom of religious thought, and the right to due process for composers, performers and retailers are imperiled if the PMRC and the major labels consummate this nasty bargain.

Are we expected to give up article 1 so the big guys can collect an extra dollar on every blank tape and 10 to 25 percent on tape recorders? What is going on here? Do we get to vote on this tax?

I think that this whole matter has gotten completely blown out of proportion, and I agree with Senator Exon that there is a very dubious reason for having this event. I also agree with Senator Exon that you should not be wasting time on stuff like this, because from the beginning I have sensed that it is somebody's hobby project.

Now, I have done a number of interviews on television. People keep saying, can you not take a few steps in their direction, can you not sympathize, can you not empathize? I do more than that at this point. I have got an idea for a way to stop all this stuff and a way to give parents what they really want, which is information, accurate information as to what is inside the album, without providing a stigma for the musicians who have played on the album or the people who sing it or the people who wrote it. And I think that if you listen carefully to this idea that it might just get by all of the constitutional problems and everything else.

As far as I am concerned, I have no objection to having all of the lyrics placed on the album routinely, all the time. But there is a little problem. Record companies do not own the right automatically . . .

. . . to take these lyrics, because they are owned by a publishing company.

So, just as all the rest of the PMRC proposals would cost money, this would cost money too, because the record companies would need -- they should not be forced to bear the cost, the extra expenditure to the publisher, to print those lyrics.

If you consider that the public needs to be warned about the contents of the records, what better way than to let them see exactly what the songs say? That way you do not have to put any kind of subjective rating on the record. You do not have to call it R, X, D/A, anything. You can read it for yourself.

But in order for it to work properly, the lyrics should be on a uniform kind of a sheet. Maybe even the Government could print those sheets. Maybe it should even be paid for by the Government, if the Government is interested in making sure that people have consumer information in this regard.

And you also have to realize that if a person buys the record and takes it out of the store, once it is out of the store you can't return it if you read the lyrics at home and decide that little Johnny is not supposed to have it.

I think that that should at least be considered, and the idea of imposing these ratings on live concerts, on the albums, asking record companies to reevaluate or drop or violate contracts that they already have with artists should be thrown out.

That is all I have to say.

[GoSteelers]

The man was a true genius, thanks for the reminder.

One of my best friends in high school turned me on to FZ he had every album it was quite an amazing collection.

[Tampa1257]

The Guitar work was racing through my mind, so many great Guys named so far, yet I am going to mention a Classic Guitar players not yet mentioned................

John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service. His rendition of Who Do You Love on the Happy Trail Album released in 1969 is so fast, the strings would catch of fire!

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Damn Tampa...Quicksilver Messenger Service...Have Another Hit...of sweet air !! You know...being around when all that early psychedelic stuff came out as well as all the bands in that era was a defining moment in lots of young guy lives. I am glad I was around to witness those years. Every tome I read a new entry to this thread I remember something else !!! Allmans Live at the Fillmore East. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.....where the hell is my old hash pipe !!!:-D

[bassman]

» Damn Tampa...Quicksilver Messenger Service...Have Another Hit...of sweet

» air !! You know...being around when all that early psychedelic stuff came

» out as well as all the bands in that era was a defining moment in lots of

» young guy lives. I am glad I was around to witness those years. Every tome

» I read a new entry to this thread I remember something else !!! Allmans

» Live at the Fillmore East. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.....where the hell is my old

» hash pipe !!!:-D

Actually, it's have another hit of FRESH air. Great song.

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» Actually, it's have another hit of FRESH air. Great song.

HA! Bassman..it says both towards the rnd of the song !! Right around the part where they say "California sunshine"

[Colt45]

OK, because they don't necessarily meet the criteria of hard rock (though perhaps

yes with screaming guitar), I was not going to mention this band or guitarist.......

But if I don't, I'm gonna bust.......

Billy Gibbons and ZZ Top - I'm talking Fandango - Tres Hombres - Deguello -

That ZZ Top.

[mailman]

jerry garcia (fave)- viola lee blues 5-2-1970:lookaround:

but then again anything he plays. chet atkins although not rock, can sure play some kick ass guitar, and my 2nd fave toss up, duane allman - pete townsend.

check out my live music list: db.etree.org/mailman1

[GoSteelers]

I hope he is doing his Dad proper, probably the ultimate tribute band!

www.zappaplayszappa.com

[Ken Gargett]

» Came across an old favourite yesterday in Frank Zappa's "My Guitar wants to

» kill your mama".

» I miss great guitar tunes. Anyone else here love great guitar?

» What are your favourite rock guitar "greats" ?

you mean aside from bob hudson's 'newcastle song'?

[brian1]

Eric Johnson....Cliffs of Dover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAF2b6fcAQc

[12stones]

I don't care what y'all say, Nuno Bettencourt needs to be in this list. His talent is simply amazing.

[CoryOllis]

I'm a huge John Fogerty fan. Blue Moon Swamp had some of the hottest licks of the decade!

Frank Zappa is correct. The issue is another red herring to distract form the ongoing theft of our country. Anyone who thinks Al Gore is harmless needs to take a close look at what his wife is doing! We in the USA have a One-Party system and, as a result, are fast becoming a totalitarian state. Go get 'em Frank! ;-)

[hoyopr]

Here a few that come to mind,

Frank Zappa, most anything, one of the greatest composers and guitar masters imho. If you’re a fan and “Zappa Plays Zappa” comes to your town Dweezil has put together a show that would make his father proud. Saw the show in Vancouver this past Dec, band included Steve Vai, Napolean, Terry B and the whole show was tight as H_ll.

As for some FZ favorite guitar tunes,

“Black Napkins”, “Zoot Allures”, “Hot Rats” whole album, “Crew Slut” some great back ground picking, along with some great harmonica, “St. Etienne”, “The Grand Wazoo”.

Other greats IMO,

Pete Townsend, Eminance Front, Teenage Wasteland

Carlos Santana one of a kind Guitar Great.

Neil Young, “Cinnamon Girl”, “Cortez The Killer”, “Keep On Rockin In The Free World”

Lou Reed, “Busload Of Faith”

Joe Walsh, “Rocky Mountain Way”

Jimi Hendrix, “Hear My Train A Comin”, “The Wind Cries Mary”

Nirvana, “Come As You Are”, “Smells Like Teen Spirit”

Doobie Brothers, “For Someone Special”

[havanaclub7]

» Came across an old favourite yesterday in Frank Zappa's "My Guitar wants to

» kill your mama".

» I miss great guitar tunes. Anyone else here love great guitar?

» What are your favourite rock guitar "greats" ?

This isn't rock per se, but Brad Paisley is one of the best guitar players in music right now. He usually records at least one instrumental in each album with his guitar playing. That guy's damn good -- nobody can play faster either.

[DC1]

» » Came across an old favourite yesterday in Frank Zappa's "My Guitar wants

» to

» » kill your mama".

» » I miss great guitar tunes. Anyone else here love great guitar?

» » What are your favourite rock guitar "greats" ?

»

» This isn't rock per se, but Brad Paisley is one of the best guitar players

» in music right now. He usually records at least one instrumental in each

» album with his guitar playing. That guy's damn good -- nobody can play

» faster either.

Look up PoJama People on One Size Fits All. Basic song that Zappa wasn't fond of but the solo at the end was all Frank. Also Shut Up N Play Yer Guitar. Solo after solo but very easy to listen to.

Anyone ever listen to Al DiMeola?

[jdbrown]

» Seriously great list of serious guitar

Ike Willis was Zappa's frontman..Excellent guitar and voice to boot. Great on "Joes Garage" .. Followed The Who across the states last year and Pete can still play like no other!!

[Colt45]

» Anyone ever listen to Al DiMeola?

DiMeola reminds me of a few other guitarists mentioned in this thread - technically

proficient, with an indisputable mastery of the fretboard - but whom I personally find

a bit robotic and lacking feel.