Gino Toscano


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given that you will check out your gibberish tomorrow morning and hit the edit/delete/spellcheck buttons like you are trying to undo your first bra, i have taken the liberty of copying your diatribe and will store it for a suitable moment or moments. seems fair that all on the forum should enjoy.

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LOL! :lol: If you cant hit the key on the keyboard, just use the one next to it, no problem :clap:

I think you're supposed to break these into 2 in the middle and share it with a friend or keep the other half for later. That's what the old Italians I see smoking these do, anyway.

Thanks for the review!! :-D

Seriously: I want to try one now!

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» lol.... 'best' review this month! :)

so true!!! pure gold!

drunk at 9pm is a good effort too, well done rob, i applaud you!

P.S lisa, lock the topic so rob can't edit the post :-D

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Hi Rob, the cigar Gino gave you is a "Toscano Originale".

It's totally hand made in Lucca, near Florence with leaves coming from north america (wrapper) and Italy (binder). These leaves have been "fire cured", and then start their fermenting process. Before packaging they mature for 12 months in their maturing room.

Always are cellophane protected. Sold in a cardbord of 2 and is sold either single pack or more. not singles.

In past time our grandfathers used to smoke them dry; they were very strong cigars. now we use to put them in a dedicated humidor (their smell is too strong to mix with cubans or carebbeans), and store them at 70% u.r.

This way they become creamy and elegant, but basicaly remain a strong smoke.

You can smoke it full lenght (as you did) or cut it in 2. This way the toscano will be more "punchy" and will last about half an hour.

Ciao, MArcello

take a look:

http://www.sigarotoscano.it/toscani.html

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» given that you will check out your gibberish tomorrow morning and hit the

» edit/delete/spellcheck buttons like you are trying to undo your first bra,

» i have taken the liberty of copying your diatribe and will store it for a

» suitable moment or moments. seems fair that all on the forum should enjoy.

Bloody disturbing comment :surprised:

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» » I am heading to a boxing fight night do...

»

» Did you win your bout?

I thought fight night was going home pissed and having it out with the missus.

I wonder if Mrs. Ayala ever reads the forum.......

It looks and sounds like an interesting cigar.

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Another similar cigar for the italians is the Parodi. Also dry cured and hard as a rock. Not such a good smell but alot of people enjoy them I guess. I smoked alot of them on deployments only because you dont have to store them in any humi and they are easy to put out and start again later (hence the lack of any good flavor).

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The cigar TOSCANO is a typical italian story.

The history tells us that the cigar was just a combination of factors during the Medici era in Florence . Due to heavy rain a huge quantity of tobacco got wet and left in the streets for several days. For not trowing away the tobacco they decided to make some low cost cigars . It was the beginning, now days you can smoke several kinds of Toscano , machine made or hand made , and since the year 2000 (I think) the cigar Il Moro that has also a collectable value.

The variety of tobacco used for the Toscani is the Kentucky , a plant height 180 – 200 cm that gives about 20 leaves. The regions in Italy where we grow it are Campania (where I live ) , Lazio, Toscana and Veneto.

The crop starts about 90 days after planting and , on the contrary of Cuba, theypick first the leaves from the top of the plant.

The leaves for the wrapper are taken only in teh middle and top of teh plant, and on each plant you take maximum 4 leaves good for wrapping.

The names of the leaves used on a plant of Kentucky for the TOSCANO are:

cimarola The top of the plant . 3-4 leaves. It can cost € 7,50/kg

mediana Middle of the plant , 3-4 leaves. it can cost € 2,00/kg

branciola Leaves of the low part of the plant used for cigarettes and for snuff. It can cost € 0.75/kg.

The prices are indicated as in Italy the tobacconist pay the cigars/cigarettes by weight and not by brand/shape.

THE CURING

After the crop when the leaves start changing colour from green to yellow-green there is the actual curing that is done by Fire and is conducted in four moments , and can go on between 10 and 15 days , depending from which area of the plant are the leaves.:

!) Yellowing …looses water but is still alive

2) Browning …the cells die and starts turning brown as the temperature are between 30 and 40 °C.

3) Drying of the edge of leaves increasing temperature to 45 °C.

4) Final drying with fires on and off to finalize all.

After a selection for choosing the wrapper leaves , they are all kept in 200 Kg packaging for at least one year.

IN THE FACTORY

We import also Top Quality wrapper from United States and it is kept separately from local wrappers. Also you must remember that Toscano cigarh as no binder but onbly Filler and Wrapper.I

The american wrapper is used for following cigars:

 Toscano Originale

 Toscano Originale Selected

 Originale Millennium

 Antico Toscano

 Toscano Antica Riserva

To have a Toscano torcedor he must study for 24 months and he can produce 520 Toscani Originali per day.

After processing the cigars are kept in wharehouse that has a good recycling system for air . (38° C and 40% umidity).

Final stage they are all reduced to 26% RH

If the quality of the cigars is low they are AMMEZZATI (cutted in halve) and from the good part we will have the TOSCANELLI if they come from Toscani or from Toscano extravecchio.

The Toscanello Special is obtained from the cutting of Originale and of Antico Toscano and Toscano Antica Riserva.

The production of the Toscani is in Lucca (Tuscany) the top quality and Cava dei Tirreni (Campania) lower.

NAME OF CIGAR

Factory and starting production Maturino time Hand Made/

Machine

MORO Lucca (2000) 12 HM

Toscano Originale Lucca (1985) 12 HM

Toscano Originale Selected Lucca (1998) 12 HM

Toscano Originale Millennium Lucca (1999) 12 HM

Toscano Antica Riserva Lucca (1992) 12 Machine

Antico Toscano Lucca (1973) 12 Machine

Toscano Extra Vecchio Lucca

Cava dei Tirreni (1953) 9 Machine

Toscano Cava dei Tirreni (1930) 6 Machine

Soldati Lucca (2006) 6 Machine

Garibaldi Cava dei Tirreni (1982) 6 Machine

Another important factor is that the TOSCANI can be smoked (Toscano aficionado smokes this way) whole and it is called ALLA MAREMMANA and must be lighted where it is more thin.

Happy Toscano Smoke

List with photo’s of the Toscani :

http://www.sigarotoscano.it/toscani.html

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» Okay I am fully tanked./ I am heading to a boxing fight night do and I amc

» cabbing it besause ....well ....I can't find my keys.

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» I really enjoyed this cigar. It looks like a dog you should put

» down.....all bumpy, hard and dry.

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» I don't lnow what cigar it is. I know it was a genoerous gift from Gino. I

» kno w I a serioudly innebriated. Howebrer I enjoyed it innesely! It has

» cloves, cinnamon, chocolate throughout.

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» What a great chabge of pace cigar! What the helll are these Gibo?

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» I should try one of these sober.

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» I am in trouble when Lise reads his in morning :-|

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» Excellent cigar which I would like to kno mire aboyt. God I wish I had to.

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» God I wish I hadnt logged on ;-)

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This gentleman was smoked at 2pm and he was well on his way when I left at 4pm......... oh the pain he is going to be in this morning when he decides to show his face :-D

I really hope the kids have jumped on his bed to wait him up this morning ;-)

Thanks Ken for saving this , you and I can have lots of fun with this one :clap:

Lise

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Thank you Gino and Marcello for the detailed back ground

I enjoyed the cigar. Very different. Medium bodied but very flavoursome although many Cuban lovers would find it a little too perfumed. For me, I think this would be a perfect change of pace cigar.

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Yesterday was not my finest hour :lol:

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My grandfather used to smoke those and Denoblies.

As children we called them Guinea Stinkers. He would smoke them and then procede to grind up the butt and smoke it in his pipe. He lived through the great depression and learned never to waste anything.

Ahh the fond memories.

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» My grandfather used to smoke those and Denoblies.

» As children we call them Guinea Stinkers. He would smoke them and then

» procede to gring up the butt and smoke it in his pipe. He lived through

» the great depression and learned never to waste anything.

» Ahh the fond memories.

I hope "gring" in "Gring up the butt" is not code for something else :cool:

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» » My grandfather used to smoke those and Denoblies.

» » As children we call them Guinea Stinkers. He would smoke them and then

» » procede to gring up the butt and smoke it in his pipe. He lived

» through

» » the great depression and learned never to waste anything.

» » Ahh the fond memories.

»

» I hope "gring" in "Gring up the butt" is not code for something else

» :cool:

:-D

Oh No an errant key stroke.

Though I'm not sure if Grandma ever got it in the butt.

Hell you never know.

He made it to the ripe old age of 96. Never had any smoking related health problems.:ok:

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Okay I am fully tanked./ I am heading to a boxing fight night do and I amc cabbing it besause ....well ....I can't find my keys.

I really enjoyed this cigar. It looks like a dog you should put down.....all bumpy, hard and dry.

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I don't lnow what cigar it is. I know it was a genoerous gift from Gino. I kno w I a serioudly innebriated. Howebrer I enjoyed it innesely! It has cloves, cinnamon, chocolate throughout.

What a great chabge of pace cigar! What the helll are these Gibo?

I should try one of these sober.

I am in trouble when Lise reads his in morning :-|

Excellent cigar which I would like to kno mire aboyt. God I wish I had to.

God I wish I hadnt logged on ;-)

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