zuma Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Bloody hell... more ammo for the anti-smoking fundamentalists... ? Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/7813124.stm Published: 2009/01/06 11:24:43 GMT Warning over 'third hand smoke' Many people are unaware that even smoking away from babies or pregnant women presents a risk, according to US research. Poisons in cigarette smoke can linger on fabrics or hair, but a survey of 1,500 households found that fewer than half of smokers knew this. Only a quarter had strict rules about not smoking in the house, according to the report in the journal Pediatrics. UK baby charity Tommy's said it was vital that pregnant women were alerted. There is plenty of evidence that "second-hand" smoke - breathed when you are in the same room as someone smoking - can be harmful, particularly to children, and some parents adopt a strategy of never smoking in their child's presence. However, Professor Jonathan Winickoff, from Massachusetts General Hospital, said this would not offer complete protection. Toxic particles in cigarette smoke can remain on nearby surfaces, as well as the hair and clothing of the smoker, long after the cigarette has been put out, and small children are susceptible because they are likely to breath in close proximity, or even lick and suck them. Other studies have linked this exposure to learning problems in children. Breastfeeding mothers who smoke also pass toxins on to their baby in their milk, he said. His team surveyed more than 1,500 households, asking smokers and non-smokers about their attitudes. They found that while 95% of non-smokers and 85% of smokers agreed that direct inhalation of second-hand smoke was harmful to children, just 65% of non-smokers, and 43% of smokers believed the same for "third-hand" smoke. Just 26.7% of households which included a smoker had strict rules about not smoking in the home. Complication risk Professor Winickoff said: "The dangers of third-hand smoke are very real - when you smoke - any place - toxic particulate matter from tobacco smoke gets into your hair and clothing." Professor Andrew Shennan, from Tommy's, said the results had "significant implications", particularly for pregnant women, who may have stopped smoking themselves, but are still in contact with others that do. "It is vital that women are made aware of the possible risks associated with third hand smoke, and alert those around them of the impact it could potentially have on the health of their unborn baby. "The chemicals in cigarettes are known to significantly increase the risk of serious pregnancy complications." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I saw this on the TV the other day and am not surprised. How long might the list be of items or activities that are not contributing to maximum longevity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRKS Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 This research is from the same group that once discovered that everyone who has died had at some time during their lives engaged in the process of breathing. However, much to their credit - they did not lobby to pass any laws that would outlaw breathing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabaiguan juan Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You just wait until they find out about about 4th hand smoke! Then the crap is really gonna fly! Honestly though, our parents smoke, and drank during pregnancies and we, for the most part, turned out great. Why change a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 This research is from the same group that once discovered that everyone who has died had at some time during their lives engaged in the process of breathing. However, much to their credit - they did not lobby to pass any laws that would outlaw breathing! .........give them time!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireDigger Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 This just in.... don't sit in rush-hour traffic either, the carbon monoxide produced by all the cars can potentially kill you! We banned smoking, next thing you know, we'll ban driving too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpetchris Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Good thing everyone is soon going to live to be 120 years old. Love that overpopulation thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacostiakat Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Keep yer chins up brothers! Keep the faith. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolivr Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 What these numb-nuts "scientists" fail to publicly acknowledge is the very important factor of dosage. Yes, some chemicals in smoke are not good for you but they are in such low concentrations that it would be physically impossible to have any measurable effect on health. Third hand smoke, what a crock The real problem for us is that the majority of people are lazy and do not question these articles and through repetition of getting these articles rammed down our throats the lies become 'truth' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Here is what is currently being discussed in Australia: Pack of cigarettes to $20. License all retailers. Health Warnings (photo's) on wine bottles. Tax on alcohol to be commensurate with alcohol content. Health Warnings and tax increases on all fast food. No fast food advertising before 9pm at night. Government internet filter to ban Child Pornography (must protect the children) and while we are at it...."anything illegal"....as determined by a "Board". Ban on Alcohol Advertising. Gambling somehow stays......Govt's need money. "Fat Tax" on health insurance. "Fat Tax" on travel. Fat people pay more for surgery. Fat people who smoke shouldn't even be treated. On a positive note the Government is dismayed that the public is not taking up on their "initiatives". Maybe there is hope afterall. Maybe...just maybe...there are too many "rules" "laws" and the public have had enough. I live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjellfrick Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 On a positive note the Government is dismayed that the public is not taking up on their "initiatives". Maybe there is hope afterall. Maybe...just maybe...there are too many "rules" "laws" and the public have had enough. I live in hope. Amen. Things have gone quite a bit beyond ridiculous. In principle I agree on the lack of complete information, i.e. dosage. Haven't read the complete report, but if they withhold relevant information they are not scientists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer14 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 "No fast food advertising before 9pm at night. " This is a given. It is much heathier to run out and wolf down a greasy burger and fries before going to bed than to eat it during lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddust Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Don't you just love scientists? Now we are able to create human beings with more than 2 hands. Come on now, one doesn't hear about the dangers of tripping on 2nd hand dog **** or the evil of 3rd hand rain.( Rain forms puddles, you step in puddle, get foot rot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gostgost Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Today's report "Too much coffee can make you think your hearing things that are not there" Heard it this morning I just can't make this crap up anymore!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2advnture Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I believe that the Dog Watch Cigar Radio program had our friend (cigar smoker) Dr Terry Simpson on discussing this (www.dogwatchcigarradio.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolivr Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Bit by bit it is getting worse. Now some are not allowed to smoke in their own homes. http://www.theage.com.au/world/californian...90127-7qxa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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